@Efi

me: *looks at new opera install*

nope seems fine. does the same things other browsers do. got a built in adblocker now too. their ui is still my favorite, although it's different than it used to be.

it's based on webkit now so they can focus on the nifty features (which is what opera was always good at) instead of core stuff like layout rendering

@Efi

hrmmmmmm maybe i take some of this back. it seems like the webkit switch, while good for rendering stability (yay fewer browser quirks) kinda killed a bunch of features people liked in opera.

also the company got sold off to some chinese investment company soooo idk how much i trust any privacy features

@tcql also, it has nothing over firefox and the weird cache stuff it does just breaks a lot of sites

@tcql they and a large part of the Opera userbase (including mwuhself)

hrmmmmmmmmmmmmm
vivaldi is kinda nice....

o heck vivaldi has a spotlight-like command palette this is nice...

@tcql I forget if you’re on Mac, but if so, you can map a keyboard shortcut to activate this kind of search for menu items in any active app

@tcql

''We do not share or sell information ...exception being if requested by legitimate law agencies with a court order.''

''Vivaldi integrates the Safe browsing API from Google, which checks the site you are visiting...''

''When you install Vivaldi browser (“Vivaldi”), each installation profile is assigned a unique user ID...''
https://vivaldi.com/privacy/browser/

sounds no good. sounds bad.

@paulfree14 sounds the same as firefox...

@tcql
...that should make it more attractive to search for one that doesn't, thought.

If one likes firefox in gerneral, but having privacy concerns icecat is an oportunity

@paulfree14 to firefox's credit, they do publish public reports about government requests and it looks like there's only been 1 subpoena (which they didn't produce data for) since 2015, and zero others

@Siphonay ya. i'm trying to understand why they changed so much with the webkit switch 😳

@tcql they probably wanted to make more profit, dropping their engine was a first step, it's a huge economy of resources. Perhaps the other changes came from that.

@Siphonay @tcql I will never not miss Opera Unite, which was the coolest most mind blowing thing I've seen in a browser.

@abbenm @Siphonay RIGHT?

i feel like the new Firefox Send feature is the only mainstream browser feature that's still riffing on the idea of using your browser to connect to other people directly

this is a thing people should be doing more off, not less!