> make server literally with the goal of making it easy and cheap to host, because i think it empowers people to host their own infrastructure
> 1 year later
> "hey Pleroma could be pretty good for people without many resources, even if the devs are all horrible people"
@kaniini I suspect a lot of the hate for Pleroma comes from two sources:
- Historic "political division" between GNU Social and Mastodon as in terms of leftie vs alt-right (which wasn't even GNU Social's developers' doing or desire really), some folks from that space moving to Pleroma and thus to a lot of folks Pleroma being mentally branded that way
- @lain is the fediverse's class clown and recent events have lead many people to associate that kind of irreverent humor with undesirable stuff
@phoe @kaniini well.. I've subscribed to @lain and unsubscribed again before a few times, and looking at their timeline, stuff like https://pleroma.soykaf.com/objects/a7213df9-c372-4662-b466-c76d6ac7d201 and https://pleroma.soykaf.com/objects/b9341afb-6f63-47da-aa4f-77f7df00afe4 is why, and probably is why people get that impression.
(Lain, sorry to talk about you in the third person as if you aren't here. But consider that feedback I guess?)
@pea @lain @kaniini @phoe not what I see when I read them. The first one looks like it's making fun of women organizing together, and the second looks like it's making fun of jewish noses.
And maybe you could make the argument that your interpretation is correct, but it's very hard to distinguish between ironic-social-commentary-meta-bigotry and actual-bigotry, *especially* in this era.
When I looked at those posts, I saw them the way @cwebber did, but what @pea sees also made a lot of sense to me. Either way, when I've seen these kinds of things from @lain , even when they do look "bad", they've never been very clearly bad. As someone who is very frequently misinterpreted (due to flat affect mostly) I don't think it's fair to project an interpretation onto lain in these situations, especially when lain has otherwise always said good/"progressive" things.
@jordyd @pea @kaniini @phoe Yeah I'm not saying @lain is bad and I agree that I've seen a lot of good things from them
what I'm saying is why a lot of people are getting that *impression*, and why I totally understand that
Notably, this is why I called Lain the fediverse's class clown :P