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so the whole github/ms thing is something alright but.
People still call github a startup??
?????

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@jelle_dc lol @ github being called a startup. What's the github/ms thing though?

@JulesIsWeird @julianaito personally, just hoping that it'll push more people to gitlab and selfhosting. Though MS is trying to win over developers' hearts with stuff like VS Code, Bash-on-Windows, etc. So they might actually pull this off

@jelle_dc why do you prefer gitlab? sorry for the questions I'm just genuinely unfamiliar with it.

@JulesIsWeird aside from git itself being FOSS, github is 100% proprietary and creates a lot of vendor lock-in. FOSS projects using github issues as a main entry-point for community interaction basically create the same issues as FOSS projects using slack as their only communication channel

Gitlab is open-core (FOSS 'core' version, proprietary 'premium' version). It also lets you host it yourself besides offering free hosting on gitlab.com

@JulesIsWeird Now, with open-core you have to trust the project not to go evil, but gitlab has a good track record and gitlab core is pretty feature-complete (there's issue boards and @ mentions and CI which is mostly the essential community-management toolkit)

Gitea is fully FOSS and easier to self-host than gitlab, but most small projects can't afford to self-host, and, well, projects living on github are just easier to find, so gitlab.com would be a good solution for them

@jelle_dc
I worked at a company that was 13 years old and still called itself a startup.

Startup culture is W E I R D