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Erica πŸˆπŸ’¨ @erica

Hear ye, knitters of Mastodon! I'm curious about what kind of knitters we all are, so...

English style (right handed) or Continental style (left handed)?

I'm a Continental knitter myself, though I haven't met many of us in the wild.

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@erica I throw with my right hand, using Reverse Combined knitting. (My knit stitches sit on the needle in the opposite direction from most people's, and I knit them through the back loop.)

@erica I knit left-handed, but only because I am left handed. I don't know which actual style I use (I know English and Continental count/name things differently)

@paeneultima if you pick up a new stitch from yarn in your left hand, that's probably continental, and if you wrap a new stitch from yarn in your right hand, that's probably English. (I only say "probably" because there are indeed many variations of how to knit! As long as you end up knitting something, it must be working πŸ˜†)

@erica you know, I was thinking about crochet, not knitting (as far as naming & counting) but yeah! Honestly mostly I just learned from YouTube videos and reversing what I saw when I couldn’t find a good left-handed tutorial.

@erica English style, right handed, although I've always wanted to learn Continental. I think it's supposed to be faster?

@lemurchild it can be faster, but it really depends on what you're knitting. Continental feels more natural to me, but that could be just because it's what I learned first.

@lemurchild @erica some of the fastest knitters in the world are English style - but using a knitting belt. I knit English style (no knitting belt), and am reasonably speedy (when I’m on a roll and knitting stockinette, I go about a stitch per second.)

Really it depends what you’re comfortable with and what kind of knitting you’re doing. I forget which is supposed to be faster for lace, cable, and knit/purl patterns. I knit both-handed for colorwork.

@gannet @erica @lemurchild

I knit combined, which is continental but "throwing" with your left index finger. I'm pretty fast, and don't hurt myself, and that's my main priority when I'm knitting.

I use my index and middle fingers on my left hand two control the two strands of yarn for color work, and basically never control the yarn with my right hand, because my dexterity just doesn't work that way.

@aimil @gannet @erica @lemurchild I wonder if we both do the same combined knitting style. Do you have to reverse ssk and k2tog instructions? It took me a while to realise that my knitting style meant those two were backwards for me.

@JordiGH @aimil @gannet @erica Hm... I don't think I reverse them? But I also don't know if I should or not. πŸ˜ƒ

@lemurchild I haven't met many knitters in person who knit combined except for my my mom and those I've taught myself how to knit... also, I just realised I've never really discussed this point with any of them. However, when asking other people online who describe their style as "combined", I've confirmed that they also have to reverse ssk and k2tog. It sounds like @aimil also was doing that but unlearned it?

@JordiGH @lemurchild

That describes my knitting -- I was taught to knit through the back loop of a knit stitch, and wrap the purl stitch one direction, and I taught myself to knit through the front leg of a knit stitch and wrap the purl yarn the other direction -- now I don't have to reverse k2togs or ssks and I don't twist my stitches when I knit in the round.

@lemurchild @erica @aimil @JordiGH I think by reverse, Jordi means that the left-leaning decrease just involves knitting two stitches together the easy at instead of having to slip stitches back and forth, while it’s the right-leaning decrease that requires slipping the stitches before knitting them together, as opposed to what non-combined knitters do.

@lemurchild @erica @aimil @JordiGH if you’re happy with your knitting, then don’t change a thing.

@JordiGH @aimil @erica @lemurchild I only have to adjust decreases when I’m knitting in the round or if there’s WS patterning. My purl stitches are like most Western knitters’, so after a plain WS row, I don’t have to make adjustments. But I do reverse combined knitting, which is less common than the kind that’s done continental style.

@gannet @aimil @erica @lemurchild Reverse combined knitting? What is that?

Yes, Naomi, that's exactly what I mean!

For the longest time time I thought was doing continental because I thought the only distinction was if you threw the yarn or not, until one day a more experienced knitter taught me what was the real name for what I do. And once I realised I did something different, I also realised why the instructions were "wrong" for me.

@JordiGH @gannet @aimil @erica "Reverse combined knitting" sounds like an Olympic sport. πŸ˜‚

@JordiGH @aimil @erica @lemurchild regular combined is if the stitch you just knit sits with its right leg in front and its left leg in back of the needle; a stitch you just purled has its right leg behind the needle and the left leg in front. Regular combined knitters usually tension the yarn in their left hand.

Reverse combined is the other way, and usually involves throwing the yarn with the right index finger. I taught myself to do it on purpose.

@gannet @aimil @erica @lemurchild Wait, so is that just left-handed combined knitting? Do you knit, uhm, into the right needle?

@JordiGH @aimil @erica @lemurchild I throw my yarn English style with my right hand, like usual. I just wrap my knit stitch in the opposite direction. The old stitches sit on the left needle, and the new stitches are formed on the right needle.

This makes my knit and purl stitches much the same size and helps keep my flat knitting from rowing out. It also feels faster.

I’m in no way left hands.

@JordiGH @aimil @erica @lemurchild it sounds more complicated than it is! πŸ˜†

You know how your knit stitch and your purl stitch lean in opposite directions?

My knit stitch leans the way your purl stitch does, and vice versa. That’s what makes my knitting reverse combined rather than just combined.

@gannet @aimil @erica @lemurchild I think I get it, I'm just being a bit of a jerk. πŸ˜ƒ

@aimil @lemurchild @erica huh, all the reading I’ve done says that combined knitting is about having the two kinds of stitch face in different directions? Yours isn’t the definition I’m familiar with...

@gannet @erica @lemurchild I may be misusing terms here, so perhaps disregard me! I’ll look things up when I get home.

@gannet @lemurchild @erica It's been a long time since I've done any, ah, competitive knitting, but my combined style is how I won the only speed knitting competition I've ever been in.

@erica Still getting used to knitting, but I'm a continental. I find English too slow, and Continental kinda reminds me of #crochet. Continentals unite!

@erica English style straight, continental when I purl.

@erica @gannet Continental now, but started as English.

The other important question is, do you hold your needles in or above your hands? (Mine are in. Above is just some crazy voodoo magic!)

@bouncinglime both needles are firmly gripped in my fists πŸ˜„ Above definitely confuses me!

@bouncinglime @erica you mean knife versus pencil hold? I hold my needles in both hands. Pencil hold makes me wonder how the heck it works.

@gannet @erica ... I just had to do both with my hands to figure it out.

Yeah, knife versus pencil. I'm a knife-needle-holder. ^_^

@erica Switch. Or, both when doing colourwork or something else stranded.

Oddly, when I learned (as a kid) and relearned (early 20s), I think I was continental. When I picked it up again in my mid-30s, English was completely naturally and unconsciously how I grabbed the yarn.

I haven't got the hang of a continental purl for some reason. So I can carry yarn lefty when in the round but not flat.

@erica I knit left handed. It's pretty close to Continental, but because of mostly teaching myself I don't quite fit Continental style.

I'm a lefty and crocheted for years before I started knitting, which has definitely influenced how I hold my yarn and needles.

@erica ok, your brilliant opener suddenly yanked out this song from the back of my head, where it has lain forgotten lo these many years. youtube.com/watch?v=61sgxbxklA

@erica Totally continental. I learned to knit from YouTube.

@erica continental! Though I learned english style too in order to do two handed stranded knitting.

@erica English style, even though I’ve developed a gross click in my wrist from it and tried to do Continental... but my tension was all off 😩

I’ve been trying this technique called β€œflicking” that I found on YouTube but I haven’t learned how to adapt it to a project that I’m doing with English rib stitch so no dice

@erica I’m Continental too. That’s because I learned while on a student exchange to Denmark in high school!

@erica I knit right handed but I tension the yarn with my left hand. So, I guess that makes me a Continental Right Handed Knitter!

#knitting

@Harena @erica I’ve seen you knit, my friend. You’re a regular continental knitter; the left and right hand in this conversation means exactly which hand the yarn is held in, not whether you’re right-handed. πŸ™‚

@gannet @erica Ahhh! But you can see it's a touchy spot for me because years ago when i was Demo'ing at AC Moore, a woman insisted that I was knitting left-handed, but I guess maybe she just meant Continental?

I remember being quite miffed at the time, though, because I am not only right-handed, I am *very* right-handed and can barely do anything with my left!

Sothereyago. Live & Learn!

@Harena @erica some people THINK continental is left-handed, and indeed some left-handers can manage it more easily. But you’re still wiggling the needle around with your right hand. She was RONG or else she just meant continental.

@gannet @erica She never used the word Continental, I think I would have remembered that, so I'm inclined to agree with you on her Rongness. ;)

She was a regular in that store at the time I was working there & was one of those sorts who Knew Everything.(and told everybody so) ;p

@erica Continental. I've always wondered why English persists so much in the US.

@erica I primarily knit English, though sometimes I switch to Continental to rest my wrists

@erica I'm a Continental knitter. I'm mostly self-taught and might be doing it "wrong," but it works for me :) I'm also learning to knit with one color in each hand to make colorwork easier.

@erica continental. Though I do my purl stitch slightly oddly. I wrap with my left hand as I can’t seem to pick πŸ˜ƒ