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I am in general very pro code-of-conduct. Still, this call to build something better has interesting thoughts in it shiromarieke.github.io/coc.htm
But I'm not sure what something better would be yet, so ATM I think having a CoC is best

@cwebber My personal experience with various projects is that often the CoC is generally unevenly applied and certain people seem almost exempt from the rules. A big thing is that trans people are often thrown under the bus when a TERF comes around.

The CoC ultimately is only as good as the community's will to enforce it. I think it's up to people to consider forking a project if they believe strongly the project is not upholding the values they claim to.

@cwebber The CoC's sort of "model" doesn't really address existing community issues effectively. All it can do is be a prophylatic measure against such issues from taking hold, if they haven't already.

But if it already has, the CoC is as good as dead from day zero. I don't believe any CoC can fix that.

The CoC is like a vaccine, not an antibiotic.

@Elizafox IME a CoC has been a document we can point to when someone is behaving in a way we consider unacceptable in our community... "change your behavior or leave".

A lot of recent calls have been made to make CoCs explicit in what is/isn't allowed and define enforcement paths. But it's hard to know what you'll run up against in advance and I have had "well the CoC didn't explicitly say this was bad so I'm fine!" experiences (no, it's still not ok). I'm not sure preciseness is best.

Christopher Lemmer Webber @cwebber

@Elizafox This is in contrast to a copyright license which must be legally precise, because it's enforced in court. CoCs are generally community normative documents.

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