A thing that makes me nervous is that, for ages, the Fed never successfully re-raised interest rates because the market panicked every time they even mentioned it. But if things go badly, lowering interest rates isn't even possible...

This drop is probably just a bump and not a collapse. So I'm not prophesizing.

That said: maybe too big to fail is a bad idea particularly in how it was executed, but at least the 2008 recovery happened under the Obama administration with economic logic behind it, and I think we really *were* close to a cliff. I'm not sure Trump's team will follow anything regarding economic safeguards if things go badly under this administration.

@cwebber to be fair, the stock market collapsing and wiping out a big enough portion of the rnc donor base's wealth is literally the only way trump's term is limited to fewer than 8 years

@swizzard Hm nope, I don't think that's true. I don't think Trump got here on RNC donations... I don't think he was donor top choice from all I've read. I think he got here on fear.

Maybe a stock market crash could do badly for Trump if it turns people against him. Though if it incites some sort of violent action, I really do think Trump is waiting for his Reichstag Fire.

@cwebber maybe he didn't *get* here via the rnc, but the release of the memo last week shows that the republican party as a whole has resolutely hitched its wagon to him and will defend him at any cost. the only way that changes is if it seems like he's bad for the bottom line.

@cwebber there's a chance the dems will win big-ish in 2018, and it is literally possible that they will run someone at all likable with a sliver of a coherent message in 2020. if they do so, the ~30% of the country that comprises trump's diehard base won't be enough, especially if turnout is depressed by e.g. a literal depression