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@starbreaker I quit facebook too, but the network effects aren't to be ignored. FB have been very successful at instigating themselves into the center of social activity for a lot of folks, and asking people to give up those connections is a big ask.
Also, it's particularly harder for people who are already being asked to do a lot of emotional labor to maintain social connections. Quitting FB is much harder if you're the "social representative" for your family.
@cercerilla@starbreaker I've never had a facebook account, but I often rely on my friends who do have facebook accounts to relay critical university-related information to me from a facebook.. group? or sth...
Even some official announcements, when students and not employees are responsible for making them, are on facebook instead of e-mail, website, or RSS. Many things that used to have websites now only have a facebook page. Surviving on university without using facebook is hard.
@Wolf480pl@cercerilla@starbreaker This is another reason why a Facebook account is so useful. It's not only huge in social connections, but organisational connections as well.
A great deal of grassroots activity within municipalities is organised via FB as well; not being involved there can mean you no longer can connect with other activists and advocates.
@ayachan@starbreaker@cercerilla@Wolf480pl It's easy to say "just give it up" and forget the importance of close social connections. Without FB I would have no contact with my friends, be isolated from networking events, and not attending any social organizing/protests.
Some people, for a variety of reasons, don't have the ability to leave and that's OK. Each person should decide what works best for them, and it's unhelpful to judge others when you don't know their situation.
"I...learned what it meant to miss out and not to be part of groups anymore.
When I met friends, I needed to be updated about earlier group exchanges. I had to continually ask my wife about discussions in our kids’ school groups. She became understandably annoyed when forced to scroll through 94 new messages about the next birthday party or unexpected drama in the kindergarden of our two toddlers."
@starbreaker@thindol@Wolf480pl@cercerilla In that case, consider the fact that the majority of people don't like that and would feel completely isolated and depressed beyond belief.
This isn't an issue of introversion and extroversion, either. Consider the fact that you communicate a great deal with people here and enjoy the community here. You're still a social creature; the only difference is that you found the right community.
@Wolf480pl@starbreaker@thindol@cercerilla That's fine. Nowhere in any of what I said did I presume what you are. I spoke of broad concerns I had about the binary I vs E argument.
@ayachan@starbreaker@thindol@cercerilla it's always a real number (or floating point), the binary just tells us if it's above or below average. Most tests say sth like "37% introvert" not simply "introvert"
@Wolf480pl@starbreaker@thindol@cercerilla Those numbers still imply nuance and the nuance is what matters the most. My point here is that there is no such thing as a person who needs absolutely nobody.
I would like to know why you're arguing with me over something we agree about: everyone socialises differently. Nowhere in any of what I said did I ever state--much less imply--that everyone socialises the same way. I would appreciate it if you stopped putting words in my mouth.
@ayachan@starbreaker@thindol@cercerilla Sorry, I initally misunderstood your point. OTOH, I still think introvert vs extrovert is the only tool I have for understading how people are social differenrly. I feel endangered because you said my tool is bad. Imagine if I had a defect of vision, and had to wear glasses. Then you say my glasses are bad because they distort reality. But for me, they are the only way to actually see anything.
@ayachan@cercerilla@Wolf480pl@thindol I've found the right community for now. I'll stay as long as it suits me to do so, and as long as I remain welcome.
I'm not that tightly attached. I grew up without friends or social acceptance, and I learned not to depend on either.
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@ayachan @starbreaker @thindol @cercerilla I am a social creature, but I tend to prefer smaller communities than most people prefer.