**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · 2018-02-23T14:04:10Z

Lexi Alexander @Lexialex

The plot thickens on Paul Engelhard’s ban from the bird site. A bunch of my friends who have access to the head honchos of Twitter approached them about it, not even they could fix it. Apparently this is a German Twitter hate speech issue. Now I have to compose a tweet in German and @ German Twitter...which is my least favorite thing to do. My German isn’t that great anymore. Plus, I have to address German hate speech laws. Sigh.

Feb 23, 2018, 14:04 · ◆ Tootdon ◆ · 1 · 10

**👉@meena@glitch.social** @meena@witches.town · Feb 23, 2018, 14:10

**👉@meena@glitch.social** @meena@witches.town · Feb 23, 2018, 14:10

@Lexialex mit Deutsch kann ich helfen, aber nicht mit den Gesetzen…

**El Niño** @Extinction_Six@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:30

**El Niño** @Extinction_Six@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:30

@Lexialex
Jetzt wird's aber spannend. Als Palestinänserin ist deine Existenzenz alleine ja schon der reinste Antisemitismus/ s

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:38

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:38

@Extinction_Six da hast Du den Nagel auf den Kopf getroffen. Deshalb sage ich normalerweise nie etwas gegen Volksverhetzung. Aber wenn ein Asian-German die Trump Wähler Untermenschen nennt ist das doch keine Volksverhetzung? Oder drehen jetzt alle durch?

**El Niño** @Extinction_Six@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:39

**El Niño** @Extinction_Six@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:39

@Lexialex Alle sind schon lange durchgedreht.

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 14:38

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 14:38

@Lexialex Is it really worth it? The Twitter Gods are fickle. Maybe just stay offa their cloud.

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:40

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:40

@bob is it worth it to fight for an important voice that has been silenced? Absolutely. All day long. It might be the most important fight one can have for humanity

**Agentfoo** @Agentfoo@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:50

**Agentfoo** @Agentfoo@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:50

@Lexialex So him decrying Nazis somehow ran afoul of German laws designed to prevent Nazism's re-emergence? I'm guessing he shared a photo or something with banned iconography?

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:55

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:55

@Agentfoo no photo. He was mass reported by right wing Germans.

**Agentfoo** @Agentfoo@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:57

**Agentfoo** @Agentfoo@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 14:57

@Lexialex Ugh, that's... ugh. Yet again, the apparatus of the state gets hijacked by the hard right.

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:57

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 14:57

@Agentfoo I know. I’m pissed off and people are either clueless or complacent about this

**Richard Cosgrove** @rcosgrove@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 15:52

**Richard Cosgrove** @rcosgrove@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 15:52

@Lexialex @Agentfoo I’m convinced the only way Twitter will change is if its shareholders fire all of its board and corporate officers with people who give a damn about the company screwing up.

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 15:01

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 15:01

@Lexialex @Agentfoo That seems to happen a lot on Birdsite. They're slow learners, but the far right have eventually figured out how to mobilize on that platform. I think they'll have a lot more trouble in the fediverse, and be more easily contained to their own echo chamber.

**Agentfoo** @Agentfoo@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 15:01

**Agentfoo** @Agentfoo@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 15:01

@bob @Lexialex We can hope!

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 15:04

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 15:04

@Agentfoo @Lexialex On Twitter because it's centralized there are no instances which can be blocked, and trying to block individual accounts is a losing game. A possibly controversial opinion is that I think whoever is running Birdsite is sympathetic towards the far right anyway, and giving them a particularly easy time.

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 15:05

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 15:05

@bob @Agentfoo hasn’t that been proven? I thought i read an article on this

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 15:06

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 15:06

@Lexialex @Agentfoo I havn't read anything about it in detail. It's just a hunch based on what I've seen over the last couple of years.

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 15:10

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 15:10

@bob @Agentfoo kind of: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/silicon-valley-tech-alt-right-racism-misogyny/

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 16:08

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · Feb 23, 2018, 16:08

@Lexialex @Agentfoo That's on a similar theme to what I was blogging about yesterday - that if the alt-right get enough influence within Google then that could be a really major threat, given the amount of personal data they have.

**BigAngry** @BigAngry@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 15:16

**BigAngry** @BigAngry@mastodon.social · Feb 23, 2018, 15:16

@Lexialex So the nazi/right users reported him to German Twitter, using the hate speech laws designed to prevent them from prospering AGAINST a voice speaking out against nazis. Fuck's sake, this is exactly the opposite of what's supposed to happen with those laws. Any idea on whether or not they baited him into this to silence him?

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 15:30

**Lexi Alexander** @Lexialex · Feb 23, 2018, 15:30

@BigAngry no, but I think it’s just how Paul talks. He’s highly intelligent and knows the law. Hate speech laws aren’t supposed to prevent ppl from calling Nazis scum