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The one thing I don't understand about Tor hidden services is how in heck they could be considered secure without TLS. Like, okay, your identity is secret from the connection itself, but if all your data travels in plaintext over Tor relays, that can't be good, right?
@gargron no it's encrypted and authenticated
it's only with clearnet through tor that the last exit node sees plaintext, as they have to send it to a normal IP address at the end
but hidden services do not get out of tor, so it's end-to-end encrypted in layers and authenticated by default, between your tor client and the hidden service node
