@Vigdis yeah, but it's not that much better honestly. I mean, it's prettier, but I don't enjoy it as a training loop because of all the other crap in my way to get there. I live 4 blocks away from the mountain, so if I'm going to go do a training ride, it's at the circuit, on the mountain, or I'm headed out towards Oka or something.

I think it'll be better when I have a new bike computer. I just need some metrics to work with.