like, I get the idea of pan = all and bi = those both like me and unlike me, ultimately it just boils down to the same thing. I'd rather go with all sorts of nuanced terms like the aroace community has done, to explain the nuanced differences, while still keeping "pan" as the umbrella term for both these cases

also like, in general, most bi stuff is *still* associated with its original definition. pan is *always* an inclusive term