@jordyd @starbreaker That quote is new to me, but I'm going to just say that the next time instead of linking to stephenson's whole _in the beginning was the command line_

@emsenn @starbreaker
Alan Kay is most commonly recognized as the father of Smalltalk and OO (though he considers few modern languages truly OO) but he’s primarily a human-computer interaction researcher, and has pioneered many of the concepts we see in modern desktop environments

@jordyd @starbreaker Ahh thanks for that lil bio; much appreciated!

@emsenn @jordyd I read that recently. I'm given to understand he hasn't used Debian in a long time.

@salmon_cannon @jordyd

I think the problem, at least where GNOME 3.x is concerned, is that the developers honestly think they ARE making the software more intuitive for end users who want macOS-level simplicity. Unfortunately, it's failing miserably.

@starbreaker
I agree. I think Apple is falling prey to this as well.
@jordyd

@salmon_cannon @jordyd

I agree, but I think many of Apple's woes are self-inflicted. People have always derided Apple gear as overpriced and underpowered, but that meme is more true now than it has ever been.