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"In a groundbreaking decision, the Austrian Data Protection Authority ("Datenschutzbehörde" or "DSB") has decided on a model case by noyb that the continuous use of Google Analytics violates the GDPR."

"This is a very detailed and sound decision. The bottom line is: Companies can't use US cloud services in Europe anymore."

from noyb.eu/en/austrian-dsb-eu-us-

@spacekookie well that sounds big. And surprisingly reasonable.

@spacekookie maybe i'm reading this wrong but uh

it sounds like the line of argument also basically makes use of AWS/GCP/Azure/CloudFlare/etc illegal

@erincandescent @spacekookie The Schrems I and II decisions made this absolutely crystal clear in plain language years ago, and the Commission kept diving out with fig leaves and talking it all down like it was nothing

The crux of Schrems I (which hasn't changed and was reaffirmed in Schrems II) was: The US is structurally dishonest and can not currently be trusted with private EU data no matter what promises it makes in trade deals or public statements. Unless huge structural changes happened to make the US trustworthy, data transfers should stop immediately.

They didn't stop immediately.

@erincandescent @spacekookie I wonder how that applies to sites that use AWS data centers within Europe

@vy @spacekookie the argument seems to be that this wouldn't be compliant because the US government could compel disclosure

@erincandescent @spacekookie I want to read a lot more about this, especially where those providers' data centers in the EU are concerned.

@erincandescent @spacekookie like "Long Term Solution. In the long run, there seem to be two options: Either the US adapts baseline protections for foreigners to support their tech industry, or US providers will have to host foreign data outside of the United States." <-- the latter makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons, but can US agencies compel that data be transferred back to the US?

@spacekookie No US cloud services *at all*? Holy crap. That disqualifies a lot of stuff.

I mean, it would be nice, but I can already feel the backlash from companies.

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