@mdhughes I've gotten screwed over by proprietary software quite a few times and I'm in the process of drastically cutting down the remaining proprietary software I depend on. I emphasize "free as in freedom" because there's been such a strong trend to talk less about freedom and more use of terms like "open source" which don't quite mean the same thing.
I'd go crazy if I was *not* using GNU/Linux, OpenBSD, etc and relying entirely on the likes of Microsoft Windows.
@skquinn Relying on free software isn't going to make your life better, just cause suffering because nothing at all works.
But my point in that post is that people using working software that doesn't happen to have your license of choice, isn't a CONSPIRACY and THE DEATH OF GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTING, it's people making reasonable decisions to not have their lives be a constant wail of misery.
Nobody's *against* you using OSS, we just don't give a fuck about the creepy religion.
@mdhughes See, and that's the problem. It's not "creepy religion", it's assuring there's some chance we, the community, can fix things when they break (on the software end). When Microsoft puts out a bad Windows security patch (and they most certainly have before), you are dead in the water until Microsoft fixes it. It's far worse with the likes of iOS where Apple uses digital handcuffs to step in and say "no, you can't run that on your phone/tablet that we made".
@skquinn That is exactly all wrong. Nobody outside the FSF cult thinks Stallman's OK to have around, and GNU software is generally the absolute worst shit possible. You can't fix gcc! They won't take patches that make it useful because of their shitty ideology.
Meanwhile clang is MIT and steered by companies who want to make it useful.
MS at least got security finally, Linux relies on "hope nobody finds yet another buffer overrun". Obvs I prefer Mac & BSD where security's designed in, but.
@skquinn And this bullshit that Apple's a "prison" or "handcuffs" is so stupid and ignorant I dunno how to slap the Alex Jones outta your mouth.
I can code & ship anything I want on Mac, ANYTHING, and on iOS I can sideload, I can distribute source, just can't put it in Apple's store without some hassle (no longer worth it to me, but millions of programs show it is for many).
There are NO, ZERO, good software stores on Linux. No good software to put in one. It's just a giant trash heap.
@mdhughes FYI, I lean far left and I'm about as far away from Alex Jones as you can get.
As far as software stores for GNU/Linux, each distribution has their own repository and it is relatively easy to grab third party packages and install them. FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD also maintain a collection of third-party software (called either "ports" or "packages").
Currently the MacOS environment hasn't been subjected to the same fascism as iOS... yet. But I've heard that's Apple's eventual plan.
@skquinn The FSF is the Alex Jones of computing. Conspiracies and paranoia peddling, partisan bullshit that a second's research debunks.
Macs also have ports, we have both MacPorts (which I mostly use) and HomeBrew (fucking bloated slow shit, but some packages are only there). ANY software compiles & runs just fine on a Mac. Despite the nonsense the
FSF tells you. But we also have good software! You'll never get Final Cut, OmniOutliner, BBEdit… on Linux.
It's all lies, what you've been told.
@mdhughes If anything, they are the opposite. If the GNU project didn't exist, we really would be in a dystopian world for computing.
The FSF didn't originate the story about Apple wanting to make MacOS more like iOS and lock out "unauthorized"/"unblessed" software. But it's easy to see the writing on the wall.
@mdhughes On GNU/Linux we do have good video editing software and text editors. OpenShot, Kdenlive, Shotcut come to mind for video. Vim and Emacs are both great text editors; I have used both but mainly use Vim now. Also, Vim, Emacs, and LibreOffice have ways of doing outlines.
We have good software, with source code available and the freedom to modify it and redistribute your changes. Where's the source code for Final Cut?
@skquinn You realize Vim predates Linux, and does not come from the FSF, it's based on Atari ST vi-like editors STevie & elvis. emacs is Stallman's shitty code, it's an abomination, exactly what I mean when I say trash.
Libre's awful, but spend a minute trying OmniOutliner and you'll see it's nothing like what you're suggesting. And Kdenlive's amateur hour, it's not usable for serious work.
Not everything has to be open source! That's religious propaganda tryin to steal human rights.
@skquinn My point, right from the start, is you've been lied to.
Everything that works on Linux, good or bad, works on the Mac (or Windows, to some extent). AND we have good software on top of that.
Apple's not taking away Terminal and clang. They're not forbidding you to load software. These are all lies, created by an evil religious cult with an agenda of enslaving you to their system, GNU-only. They suck, don't give in to them. Try going outside the GNU gulag, it's nice out here.
@mdhughes I have used non-free software in the past, but every time, I have wound up looking for free (GPL) alternatives and wanting to get back away from it.
What's so wrong with LibreOffice?
The free software movement (not to be confused with the "splinter faction" open source movement) is about freedom, exactly the opposite of being "enslav[ed]". Stallman's not perfect, and by all means, if you don't like Emacs or think it's "shitty code", use something else. (cont.)
@mdhughes I haven't done a lot of video editing work lately but the free software options that run under GNU/Linux are out there. Cinelerra is/was one that held itself out to be "professional grade", not sure what its current status is.
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