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I am being told at some length and with some persistence that there is a "huge body of work" proving natural selection may be wrong or not the whole story etc, etc. Can anyone point me to a source for natural selection being WRONG by an actual scientist? (Person in question has only said "Gould vs Dawkins", which is not very helpful or specific.)

@shanaqui but it sounds like you've got a denier on your hands and they likely aren't worth engaging

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@susannah That's the thing, he actually believes in evolution. He just keeps telling me that I'm wrong to state that "natural selection fits with the observations we can make of the world around us", without specifying WHAT observations it fails to fit in with.

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@shanaqui that doesn't sound very productive. If you want to keep the conversation going, how does he respond to specific instances of selection? Or explain artificial selection?

@susannah @shanaqui There *are* other mecanisms for evolution than selection : founder's effect, genetic drift... it's a complement, not a rebuttal of the existence of selection, and it's rarely what people arguing vehemently against it have in mind.