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God, this new phone is making me appreciate how awful proprietary software is in comparison to open source. Escaping from the built-in apps to f-droid was such a relief. But of course, most of the thing is still proprietary and sketchy as hell. I'm not even allowed to disable that stalkery music app, for example. I really need to work on getting myself a good open source phone. :/

vince 🍣 @salmon_cannon

@Angle What I want to see though is open source without the learning curve. Non-techie types don't care about proprietary v. open source because open source takes a ton of work to learn/maintain, when generally proprietary devices tend to "just work" and when they don't, have a clear path to resolution.

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@Angle Yeah, even user friendly distros (excluding phones for ease of discussion) like Ubuntu, require a lot of command line experience. And I don't see any distros really attempting to change that. Maybe Mint a little bit.

@salmon_cannon I use Xubuntu, and I can mostly get away with copy pasting commands into the terminal. Though I've ended up picking up some familiarity anyway. XD

@Angle Yeah and I get doing that, but I think most end users still would seize up just seeing a terminal. There really needs to be a macOS of *nix.

@Angle Which is know macOS is technically a BSD, but I'm sure you get my drift.

@Angle I know this from ~8 years of working at the Apple Store. Most users won't even read a simple prompt on the setup screen, let alone deal with a command line tool.