@pzmyers that works for stuff like the humanities or history where all you need is knowledge.

it works less well for something like chemistry where you need hands-on lab experience, as fume hoods and equipment and glassware are ridiculously expensive.

@Canageek @pzmyers That, and I doubt student loans will pay for private tutors. -_-

@carcinopithecus @pzmyers not even close in price, animar historically of cost about $100,000 per hundred megahertz and another hundred grand for the probe. most of your cheaper equipment like your uv-vis and IR will be in the $40,000 price range.

@Canageek That's why I said you should attend a public university that has all that stuff but doesn't charge a premium cost!

@pzmyers ah, there is no such thing in Canada. All universities are publicly funded here. Some do cost more like university of Toronto, but there's lots of good cheap ones around, I think my tuition was about 4K/semester at McMaster?

@Canageek No, Canada has private universities.


They're just not as dominant or common as they are in the US. We've suffered with the horrible example of Harvard & others.

@pzmyers Huh, yeah, I've actually heard of a couple of those

@Canageek @pzmyers 4k/semester it a lot, in Saarbrücken (Germany) I only pay 300€ per semester (150€ for the public transport, 75€ administration fees and 74€ insurance).

@Canageek @pzmyers it doesn’t even work for the humanities? The $3,000 tag is, according to the comic ‘per course, per semester’ but then in the conclusion they’ve switched it to ‘full time, all year’

Even just doubling the price to account for two semesters/yr puts the PhD tutors over the cost of annual tuition

This isn’t to say that college isn’t overpriced, but the math in that comic doesn’t hold up at all

@Satsuma In the comic, both tuition and salary are per semester, so when you account for two semesters/yr both prices double, not just tutors.

@pzmyers i'm just curious: US doesn't have state-sponsored and targeted tuitions? (the first one where the state pays for the student and the second one where a company pays for the student but the student agrees to work there for several years after graduating)

@oreolek I'm at a state-sponsored institution with much lower (but not non-zero) tuition. We also have community colleges that are a third the cost of my school.

@pzmyers Zach Weiner regularly retweets his brother, who is a homophobe and a Federalist contributor. His Twitter was how I was introduced to The Federalist and Quillette. Tired of this two-faced bullshit

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