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@SuzanEraslan @Akatookey I think they're succeeding at deconverting alt-right trolls, which I find to be incredibly important, because for the most part I think the trolls are winning the culture wars at the moment.

I think it's clear from what they talk about: capitalism, inequality, wars, the toxic culture of conservatism, etc that they're fighting the good fight.

@abbenm @Akatookey If they were fighting the good fight, then they wouldn't spend 80% of their time online directing their fans to attack other leftists, particularly women and PoC. They spend more time attacking other people on the left than they do conservatives and reactionaries, and it's no coincidence that the majority of their attacks are on marginalized people.

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@abbenm @Akatookey @SuzanEraslan I have plenty of problems with them, especially when it comes to supporting PoC activists, but most of their attacks are against liberals and conservatives, not leftists. Clintonion neoliberalism is not leftism.

@pybyte @abbenm @Akatookey I'm not specifically talking about their show-- I'm talking about actual friends of mine that they've siced their fans on for daring to criticize their show... and said friends are actual leftists.