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gendering robots 

@phooky that's cursed

gendering robots 

@phooky ah, the two genders: Robertson and Phillips

gendering robots 

@jleedev @phooky
All these genders are valid, regardless of what you think, sweetie. 💖

gendering robots 

@phooky Hasbro is a villain who’s plot is to sort the entire universe into the gender binary. The only one who can stop this dastardly scheme? Bond, THEYmes Bond. Whose been given a license to bend and swap by theMI5.

gendering robots 

This might be controversial, but I'm not sure I see gendering here. I see two different stylistic choices. If I see them as gendered, that's me, not them.

For sure, if there's a 'pink aisle' in the toy store, and if that's part of a gendered organisation of products, I'm unhappy with that. But I'm not sure that's what we have here.

@phooky

gendering robots 

@EdS that's true in a technical sense, but it's clear what they're aiming for in context. These aren't aesthetic choices in a vacuum and this has a very different intent than offering a steampunk variant, or a filigree variant, or a beige normcore version. I can't blame them for choosing to do this, but they could also... not.

gendering robots 

I see what you're saying, and I'm not 100% sure of my position, but I wouldn't want to see "we can't have pink toys."

Those two toys are exactly the same shape and almost the same product name. One might argue they will appeal, and are meant to appeal, to two different recognisable sensibilities. But if they are side by side, and a child can choose whichever, isn't that fine?

(Previously, and similarly, two calculators, one being pink.)

I'm no gender theory expert...

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@phooky @EdS Hmm; but if it means that more girls like robots isn't that a good thing?

gendering robots 

@penguin42 @EdS oof, this discussion. I'll just drop my salient points and skedaddle:
* we don't need to make gendered versions of toys
* there are a large number of people who will only purchase children's toys that are implicitly or explicitly coded to a gender
* making a gender-coded version of this robot will help to allow kids surrounded by those people to play with robots
* we still don't need to make gendered versions of toys

gendering robots 

@phooky @EdS We need some science here; walk a Boston Dynamics 'Spot' into a classroom and see what they all think.

gendering robots 

I do now see a hazard that this offering reinforces binary thinking in parents (and perhaps in children)

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@phooky at least the pink one is the same price :p

re: gendering robots 

@yhancik@octodon.social @phooky@octodon.social I was just noticing that. Trying to decide whether they have some hold over the pink plastic sources to force them to sell at a discount or if their just that overpriced that they can absorb it. Because surely pink plastic must be super expensive to justify those price differences, right?

re: gendering robots 

@LilFluff @phooky pink plastic comes from pink dinosaurs, who, as we all know, were far more rare (this is why you don't see any in Jurassic Park).

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