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social media debate often seems the equivalent of being stuck in a room of students who are trying to bluff they way around the fact that almost no one's done the required reading and getting into a heated argument over nothing because the other option is to sit there in silence and the teacher finding out they don't know what they're talking about. meanwhile the teacher is bored, doesn't care, but didn't have any lesson plan beyond "let the students argue".

i once spent over half an hour in class during my Masters listen to a guy argue that feminism was bad without knowing what feminism meant. He ended up arguing that just because he believed women should have equal pay, equal rights, and that things were currently unbalanced in favour of men, didn't make him a feminist, because the word was bad.

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Is there a term for when someone plays devils advocate to cover for the fact that they're ignorant on a subject?

"Look i have no knowledge or experience of this topic, but i read one article and i'm taking an interest now and i know my opinion is needed. Who would like to debate me?"

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oh i just figured it out, its Dunning–Kruger effect

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Reinforced by the popular superstition that not being invested on informed improves your capacity for judgement

@Cathymarinara @eweish im too smart to not get things right, and i know that because im smart.

@mxsiege @eweish one of many reasons why I can never do academia or hot take journalism

@eweish @mxsiege south park taught me that being passionate about things is wrong, and by god i'm not going to question it

@mxsiege Ever since I've learned to keep quiet or admit that I have no opinion or I'm not informed enough I'm so much happier. Embrace the gap! (German proverb)

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i remember leading a lot of those tutorials because I'd listened to fifteen minutes of an audio reading of the material on the way to the class

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Oh uhh, uhhhh punchline the uhhh, "and that's what it feels like for me being a member of a minority group whilst still super privileged" ??

@mxsiege if the students haven't done the reading in a discussion seminar, it's hard to recover from without a ready lecture and discussion, but those take new teachers (like TAs, who tend to run these) hours to write. Like 5 hours per hour. That time isn't paid at all if its a seminar…

Letting students fight is also a bad plan, but there's almost no training. The NLRB just ruled TAs have no right to unionise.

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