@feld What makes you so sure open source and open protocols could not have competed?
So you think that the taking over of the software market by capitalists entities was, in the end, a good thing?
If, let's suppose, the free software movement - that was already in place - was the one who took over software development for the years to come
Would our current softwares be worst?
"they DID add value to the world.The world of business. They used their technology to become *the* premier marketing and customer research platform"
Weird that you think this contradicts the OP
"Adding value to the business world" = making a small number of people rich at others' expense" = stealing value from the world at large
@feld who is this "we" who knew these things? Billions of people have been born since 1996. Is someone teaching this to the children? And I am using a free service where I am not the product currently.
@kingu_platypus_gidora the capitalist idea of creating value is just the tumblr infinite chocolate bar trick for adults
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Bill Gates made his money by extinguishing
free software and forcing us to pay him a tax
just to turn our computers on. This was only
possible because the State was ready to
violently enforce his "intellectual property’.
He didn't created a computer revolution, he
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Zuckerberg made his money in the exact
same way, of course — by destroying an free
social network. A social network was bound
to emerge, what Zuckerberg did was prevent
it from following open protocols, like email,
so just anyone couldn't set up a server to
socialize with anyone.
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To say these people added value to the world
and therefore "deserve" their billions is
absurd. They subtracted value, an enormous
amount of value, and stymied progress to
seize control and extract wealth. Computers
and the internet would be more advance if
they had never existed.
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Spicy. And true, although this post might attract techbros.
@kingu_platypus_gidora didn't just destroy it, he stole it, as there's good evidence that the original DOS was basically just stolen code from CP/M
@kingu_platypus_gidora what I find really frightening is how unabashedly certain these accusations sound. All of these cases are more nuanced in important ways than they're made to look. But yeah, let's just hate people by default for mostly just being lucky?
When you are "Just being lucky" there is a decision you have to make.
become a decent but very rich human being
become a billionaire asshole
@kingu_platypus_gidora agreed. I only mentioned it as a wrong reason for hatred. My main argument is that their "evilness" is at least nuanced. An while I'm not going to be a Zuckerberg's apologist in particular, with Gates that sentiment you quoted really grated against my perception. If he didn't invent/stumble upon a way to make money from programming (no matter how unfair) there wouldn't be a software revolution at all. Programming would remain a thing for geeks and defense contractors.
@kingu_platypus_gidora and again, there's a lot to debate. But that "he just used free software and made everyone pay for it" is plain wrong. There weren't usable software at that point to begin with. A thing like, say, a Free spreadsheets editor would never exist.
@isagalaev Maybe not plain wrong, but let's say over-simplified.
@kingu_platypus_gidora Is this dude on the fediverse yet? Seems like a good time for him to mic drop and move here.
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