@kingu_platypus_gidora spiritual/cultural transformation my ass. People are affected by messages pumped into them a lot. What are they? What organizations? The state of that is not good.

And public opinion also isn't enough. We have to throw new politicians in there to actually change things.

OCR Output (chars: 486) 

“We scientists don’t know how to do that”

“used to think the top environmental
Problems were biodiversity loss, ecosystem
Collapse and climate change.

I thought that with 30 years of good science
we could address those problems.

But ! was wrong.
The top environmental problems are
selfishness, greed and apathy...

-..and to deal with those we need a spiritual
and cultural transformation

- and we scientists don't know how to do that.”
Gus Speth

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