The fediverse is Mastodon, Pleroma, Diaspora, Friendica, Hubzilla, Osada and all their friends, federating. But what do we call all the silos, the ad-based family of Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and friends? How about Adverse? It's true: a universe founded on ad serving. And a reminder that the offer plenty of adversity.
@kensanata What do sites like us in the non-federated open web class as? :)
@ExilianOfficial “Hey, whatabout the rest of us, we are not dead yet! We are blogs, forums, wikis and all that, we were here first!!”
@kensanata I feel like most people only know the "necro" prefix from "necromancy", so that might not present the intended "dead and still dead" message
@Zoidtes The Adverse is a big and welcoming family. All it's member silos stand alone, like rocks, like islands, like Alcatraz. Surely they will happily welcome Discord and Slack into their dysfunctional community.
@LydiaConwell The meme wars are on! 😃
@kensanata I have to say I'm digging concept of the ad-verse. Although I think it should be hyphenated (for now) so people are clear what is being referred to.
@kensanata Adverse is quite flawed. They are not a single place. They are all closed on themselves so not a *verse.
@lord Like the stars in the void they exist in the same universe, even as they isolate themselves from each other. Surely the suffix -verse does not imply federation, or sharing. Thus, it must apply to non-sharing, non-connected, isolated instances.
Thank you ! Interesting.
So fediverse = turns into a federation, which I doubt was the meaning originally chosen; I suspect it was rather some kind of metaphor with "universe", with the idea of common space; but this idea rather comes from "uni" and not "verse".
So we could have named it rather "parsiverse", with the idea of turning everything into "sharing'" :)
@kensanata probably better than "gafam" that just names the companies, and therefore doesn't fit for similar companies that have different names.
@kensanata what about adtracktionverse? comes with ads, tracking and attraction (network effect of big platforms) :)
The Fediverse needs all the marketing(and propaganda) it can get.
@kensanata The Fediverse is the Internet. Facebook, Twitter, etc. are AOL. Or CompuServe.
(Shitverse works for me, but others are somewhat more diplomatic)
@kensanata how about we just call it SHIT for short.
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@kensanata I'd call the fediverse Venice and what you suggest to call the adverse the aegean because to me the main feature of the fediverse is you can build bridges and don't have to be on the same island in order to talk to each other w/o needing a boat and some luck not to crash. Funny thing about that comparsion: I didn't intend to also picture the posts you never see due to algos by messages that were on ships not to reach their destination.
How abaout the big Walled Gardens?
I like it.
Layers of meaning in there.
@kensanata How about Surveilverse?