Has anyone shown this to Torvalds? I feel like it might open his eyes to some things...
@jordyd Linus is in a position where he's gotten away with being an asshole for so long that demanding that he change is a non-starter.
@jordyd
He is like that for a reason.
tl;dr He was once too nice and did someone not tell "your code is shit" so this guy continued to work on it.
His commits got rejected several times but he still kept going until someone finally said that they have no use for his code, no matter how much he works on it.
This guy then later tried to commit suicide and then Linus said he should have been harsher in the beginning to make clear that his code is not wanted
@Vamp898 @starbreaker when was this
@jordyd @starbreaker
It is easy to say Linus Torvalds is an asshole but there are almost no examples that shows off him as an asshole.
Even the guy who tried to commit suicide, he never made an unfriendly statement to him, the opposite.
Its that some people are just pussies... if you say "This code is bad" they already get offended, even if you tell them afterwards how to improve.
They are like "i dont like you, you said the truth".
But i think thats mostly an american thing
@Vamp898 @starbreaker there are many examples of him being an asshole though? Like he's said many times "this code is shit", etc
@Vamp898 @starbreaker there's an entire subreddit full of examples at /r/linusrants
@jordyd @starbreaker
I had to make a break to laugh when i read "there is a subreddit" :D like if that shows anything :D
But thats typical for reddit. Background is not important, truth neither. Sell you grandma for a few seconds of internet fame.
Out of context you can make everyone seem like an asshole, but that is still not the truth and a bunch of retards on reddit don't change that.
Take those examples and read them on context on lkml and you'll see its different
@Vamp898 @starbreaker they link directly to lkml
Yeah, click the links and read in context.
I did and i did not found examples where he ever acted like an asshole (instead as an direct reply to assholes to cut off stupid and senseless rants by retards)
I still think thats an american problem that people from the US see the truth as unfriendly and people saying the truth as assholes.
Because in america you don't like your friend, you either love or hate them. Nothing is real and everyone wears a mask.
@Vamp898 @starbreaker there are many instances where he has responded to calm, level-headed expressions of opinion with insults and aggression. that's not a cultural thing, that's just a poor temper and immaturity. you can express truths without being an asshole, something which Linus is clearly incapable of
Please show me an example where this happened
@jordyd @starbreaker
There is a whole backstory to this you are missing (those are not just random people talking) but to make it short.
They were causing a _lot_ of trouble and did not just not wanted to fix it, they also blamed the kernel developers that it was their fault.
Even after having been pointed out several times they still insisted it is not their fault until somone escalated it to Linus who was, understandibly, pissed.
And nobody was harmed, they excused and everything went on
@jordyd @starbreaker
But it is not limited to the US, it is sometimes just a people thing.
Take Lennard Poettering. He treats everyone like an asshole but if he gets something back, he cries like a baby.
@Vamp898 @starbreaker there's an entire subreddit full of examples at /r/linusrants