In the past week, Github has made moves aimed at taking over both free software packaging and now free software crowdfunding.
This is utterly scary, and I'm surprised nobody is talking about it.
@joeyh there is a bit of discussion about it, eg. https://soc.freedombone.net/objects/dacc5a3f-586e-4edb-8857-ff87ee110901
@joeyh I too find it scary. But I don't really get involved in discussions about what industry giants like Microsoft do. The discussions tend to end up being people shouting past each other, and nobody's mind gets changed.
But MS/GitHub making moves in this area is definitely worrisome.
@liw I'm coming to realise that it's far less about changing minds in individual debate than in *getting the point out*.
JG was absolutely correct on the value of repetition, and even small-scale propaganda can have effect. Though it need not be lies.
Getting bogged down in debate with the bad-faith or. even simply insensible has largely negative value. Proclaim victory and roll forth
embrace extend and extinguish?
@bhaugen except maybe not "extinguish", but "extreme horizontal monopoly"
Github is dead.
This is Microsoft doing the Fear-Uncertainty-Doubt-Embrace-Extend-Proprietize and Kill
between steps 5 and 6 now.
@hhardy01 goal seems to be closer to "all you smelly free software devs are MS/Uber gig hackers now" than fully proprieterize and kill.
They have updated their game plane a bit since the 90's, unfortunately.
@joeyh Haven't heard about crowd funding, what is happening there?
@joeyh oh, I just saw it, nevermind
@joeyh I'm scared, but also very tired...
@joeyh I think everyone who possesses the understanding required to understand why this is problematic has stopped paying attention to Github a while ago?
@technomancy how can you not pay attention to them when you're forced to use them for sending patches to a majority of free software projects?
you call yourself an anarchist and spout shit like this? "we deserve it"?
Big difference between "we're a part of the problem" and "we deserve this"
@joeyh Yeah LinkedIn, Github, Skype, Azure, they have tons of cash & know enough about coding to be dangerous.
@joeyh I saw the funding announcement, but where did you see something about packaging?
@joeyh Bear Hug, Poorly Copy, then get hit with the Fire Extinguisher?
@joeyh got a link for the news about packaging? i found the crowdfunding one...