Srsly, all we needed to do to get those undeletable apps removed from our phones was some light corporate espionage?

@joeyh Huawei has its own bunch of unremovable stuff. On a phone by them I had two copies of their version of Contacts, the second one appeared by itself as I tried to remove them....

@dimpase @joeyh Why were there two copies?

I know these apps tend to get developed and permantly installed in case something like what just happened to Huawei occurs. Phone manufacturers don't want to be locked in to Google.

@alcinnz @joeyh obviously it was some kind of bad UI bug. GPS was very bad, Strava just did not work (and still does not, as I am too lazy to unsubscribe from a newsfeed support.strava.com/hc/en-us/ar
on this particular Strava problem)...

Seemingly OK hardware, great battery life, a decent camera, and a screwed up UI that drove me mad.

@dimpase @joeyh I wouldn't trust Huawei made software, their basestations are vulnerable by default with ancient versions of OpenSSL, running deprecated RTOSes and tooling that has known vulns.

Worst part is, Huawei was asked to clean up their basestation code a year ago, yet is still a pile of vulnerabilities: cbronline.com/news/huawei-secu

Cellular basestations are supposedly Huawei's core product. I hate to think of how they've broken the Android security model...

@bikecurious @joeyh links related to other Huawei vulns at the bottom of that article are telling, too.

@dimpase @joeyh Huawei's codebases are not their own generally, they started with a stolen codebase from Nortel back in the day :P

Building competence to work with codebases that are unfamiliar to your company is a hard problem, and has been Huawei's main struggle whether writing Windows drivers, basestation software or Android ROMs.

Unsurprisingly, Huawei's employees figure out the bare minimum needed to get the product "working", and kick said product out the door at that point.

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