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"We don't have an ETA for a new signature from MS which would unblock us. At *best*, we're expecting a few weeks. It's out of our control."

lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2

Debian has been unable to build their installer for almost a month now because of a SNAFU and only Microsoft can really unblock it. Wow.

@joeyh

SecureBoot, a platform 100% under the control of Microsoft, is working as planned.

@ParadeGrotesque @joeyh meant to keep me from being the admin of a device I own. Yep.

@joeyh Yup, the thing that needs to be signed by someone else, you want to change as rarely as possible as it won't get turned around quickly.

@joeyh Shim? I think the word you're looking for is "sham."

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