@Patrickme @Zaphodbblx I come from the same sort of family. All marines. And it is hard to fault some midwestern kid in the mid-80's, in that Cold War environment, for volunteering having experienced all of the news and propaganda of the time.

Those were my brothers and sisters fighting the first Gulf War - who joined with no notions of Islam or oil money or neo-liberalism. The cause of the leadership becomes the cause of the soldier.