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Yeah, me too. gizmodo.com/i-miss-the-handspr

"Even today, when powering up my Visor again with a pair of AAA batteries, I’m reminded why it was so appealing. I don’t have to charge it, connect it to a wifi network, agree to endless EULAs, explicitly ask it to respect my privacy, create online accounts, or dig out the passwords for countless apps. After a brief tutorial and stylus calibration, its app-filled home screen pops open in an instant."

You really don't understand how much bullshit tech companies have conditioned us to put up with until you pick up a device from 20 or 30 years ago. The absence of all the bullshit on the old device really puts all your current ones into stark contrast.

@IridisSparks around 2003 to 2005 I started really getting into XML, Unicode and the newest CSS iteration, and then gave up by 2006 or so bc I saw everything being coded with JS and Flash. as well as so much being turned into "pay to play"... then ofc the tech giants sprang up around then and it was all over with lol

@mrpieceofwork @IridisSparks You might want to give things a fresh look! There's been lots of progress in the web platform since then - you can stream audio & video right from HTML, for instance, no Flash required. You can do 3D graphics right in the browser, too, again without plugins. And mobile-centric features like geolocation are baked in now as well.

There's no shortage of jerks using these tools to do awful things, of course. But that's no reason why good people shouldn't use them to do good things!

@jalefkowit Fuck, even the Wii is a stark contrast with its - the wonder - not forcing you to auto-update.

@IceWolf I love turning on my PS4 and having to wait for it to download system updates, install and reboot. Because I don't get enough of that shit every day at work

@IceWolf It really gets me missing my old Sega Genesis, which at least understood that when I turned it on I wanted to PLAY GAMES RIGHT NOW

@jalefkowit The lack of any "stand-alone" mindset so-as to drag you into some kind of service contract is sadly THE WAY these days. Stemming from the inflated salaries and "movement" expectations of investors.
There are some tech industries that "live in the past" in some ways. The irony is we often get frustrated by this "ancient tech". MODBUS, IEEE-488 (GPIB), NMEA-2000 while not "shiny and new" they do provide incredible ecosystem interoperability which we should all aspire for more of.

@jduckles @jalefkowit not to mention that there will be no "using it again after 30 years, by putting in some fresh batteries" at all. As these services it interfaces with will long have been merged, adquiered, sold and sunset in the great profit seeking meat grinder...

@b_cavello @chotee @jduckles This is why I started using Linux as my primary OS, nearly 20 years ago. Microsoft started requiring you to "activate" Windows (i.e. let it phone home to confirm you'd really paid for it) to use it, and I couldn't abide the idea that Microsoft could decide one day that I should no longer be able to use my own computer

@jalefkowit I use an hp omnibook 300 every week.

4AAs. Instant on. Blazing fast OS in rom.

@ajroach42 @jalefkowit and I miss websites without painful popups asking to accept trackers that are already loaded anyway…

@mmu_man @ajroach42 @jalefkowit Using Links in the framebuffer with fbi as the image viewer (minus GIFs, those are handled by mpv) and fbpdf for PDF’s it’s the best experience ever. Pleroma load fine over https://brutaldon.org No ads, no crap. “Links -g” for articles full of images (that way you don’t use fbi separately).

@jalefkowit @b_cavello I can see that to an extent, and they can certainly dial some of this back. But what we expect from devices also changed a lot, so infrastructure both technical and legal had to be built for that.

@jalefkowit Those were tools, intended to assist us, not take over our lives.

@jalefkowit everything's a headache, but I prefer the DIY, avoid-the-noise headache of a linux or a lineageOS.

We pay however we go, but at least this way I know what I'm in for (and maybe 2% mentally healthier...except on patch days).

@jalefkowit
Also, if you are tired of how much bullshit tech companies have conditioned us to put up with, you should really check out free software. Those tools still respect user a lot more than proprietary ones. Mastodon/Fediverse is of course a great example of this.

@jalefkowit
I'd love a Linux-based, 21st century version of an Atari Portfolio...with access to a command line and the ability to install apps like jrnl, taskwarrior, cli Joplin....

@jalefkowit I had a iPaq PocketPC and loved it. I had a palm for a while before that and never could get a handle of it.

I miss offline applications in general, almost everything I use has to “call home” before I’m allowed to use it.

@jalefkowit my series of Palm Pilot devices were amazing! I couldn’t deny the usefulness of smartphones as their successor though. We have fallen a long way though. An iPhone that’s, say, 7 years old is essentially (for most use cases) unusable. A 23 year old Palm iiie will basically still do everything it was intended to.

I get that tech moves on, I do. But come on, can’t we have stuff that will still be useful after more than 5 years?

@jalefkowit I’m writing this on an iPhone, aware of the hypocrisy, but that was because the iPhone was the best total cost of ownership & most “sustainable” option for me. Which is ridiculous.

On the other hand I’ve got an 8 year old Android tablet rocking Android 11 and working actually really rather well. We need more of that, and less disposable tech.

I may have drifted slightly off topic.. but in short yeah, absolutely me too!

@jalefkowit Oh yes, I used a Handspring Edge until the phone companies recognized neither the phone nor the company -- to be fair, I think the device was ten years old by then and the maker several years out of business. It was solid. It was cool. It was a really good e-reader, the best until e-ink.

@jalefkowit well, that sucks... all that I just typed out is gone. UM... tl/dr Considering all that has come to pass in the past 20-30 years, if I DO get back into "web publishing", it will be by using as much that is available, and within reason, to further IRL community based ventures/mutual aid/revolution lol, etc.

@jalefkowit oh, man, me too! I wrote a novel on mine with a foldable keyboard. Hell, I ran my physical therapy practice with a database written in handbase and would dock it to my computer and all the data would populate into access.

@jalefkowit to add to the "has a useless device".discourse.. LUCKILY we have a speaker that accepts my "useless" iPod Nano (I cannot attach it to a PC, if I even had a cable for it, as it's formatted for a Mac, which I don't have, either) BUT, I can listen the same 600 songs over and over and over until I tire of them and ditch it for a few months.

@jalefkowit For the record... I am using an HP Pavilion WinVista 1G RAM with a DEAD battery and a very squirrely power connection, that needs to be lifted up to allow airflow underneath. else it crashes 15 minutes after booting up, and it cannot run MANY "current" programs as most went to 64bit and there are no updated old ones, so this version of Chrome breaks all sorts of websites... but Mastodon works YES lol

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