Checked out r/unixporn but it's all just completely flat themes with no visible UI elements. What's the point of showing off your ~-~kEwL~-~ Linux desktop if it just looks like Windows 10?

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Like come on, where's the WindowMaker dock with 10 completely useless dockapps running? No rippling reflecting water effect at the bottom of the screen that uses up 50% of your CPU? Not even a Matrix code background? Kids these days...

This is what a real Unix desktop should look like. Bunch of useless dockapps, Matrix theme, XMMS, Unix joke about /dev/brain, IRC, list of movie players you use to play your illegally downloaded Buffy the Vampire episodes, and a folder of book warez downloaded from Project Gutenberg

It warms my heart to see that there are still packages for wmcube and wmfire in Debian

It used to be that there was a huge library of different window manager themes on /, but a few years back the site shut down and there doesn't appear to have been any attempt to archive it. Damn shame to see user generated content like this just vanish.

Ironically, it seems freshmeat for several years in response to the crawler was just serving empty pages with the message, "There is no need to mirror our content". Turns out yes, there was.

Currently assembling my own screenshot so I can show these r/unixporn kids what a real Unix desktop looks like. Having some problems getting fsv to work though.

by the way, what in god's name has happened to xmms? it used to be just a simple Gtk-based clone of WinAmp, but apparently at some point the devs decided that they were actually developing an elaborate multi-frontend client-server music playing framework? The old WinAmp-style UI doesn't even exist any more and the new default interface is ... a CLI.

List of all the dockapps I have running in that screenshot:

wmitime wmifs wmmisc wmmon wmix wmbattery wmnd wmtime wmcore wmtop wmfire wmpinboard wmmatrix wmxmms2 wmifinfo wmwave wmcalc wmdiskmon wmmoonclock wmdate wmgtemp wmforecast wmsun wmbutton wmsysmon wmclock wmclockmon wmcube wmcliphist wmfsm wmcpuload wmpuzzle

Once I get this all assembled I need to make an animated GIF of it. A static screenshot really doesn't do all the animated dockapps justice.

I'm using about half a core just for all the animations that show CPU usage

Taking suggestions for what to replace the Window Maker logo with on the dock

@fraggle Is that a Sega Saturn style transparency? Because the terminal window is transparent with the desktop yet it's hiding the window between them.

@Genstar fuck yes the fake transparency effect is another staple i completely forgot about. i can almost guarantee that whoever took this screenshot was using aterm specifically to get that one feature

@fraggle @Genstar now I really want to set that up. I've always been one of those people who does the minimal amount of visual configuration, and leaving pretty much everything as default (after disabling dark themes of course).

But because of that, if I tried to create something like the thing you showed it is almost guaranteed to be a glorious mess.

@fraggle Everyone describing their themes as "minimal" as if that's not just how everything is now. We have these super high-res monitors now, let me see some maximalism

@fraggle Mine too! Seems windowmaker (as wmaker) is still there too.

@fraggle That sucks. I made a number of themes during those times including an ice theme for Enlightenment specifically for the rippling water animation.


Audacious can use (most) WinAmp themes and is still being maintained, FWIW.

@fraggle > The old WinAmp-style UI doesn't even exist any more and the new default interface is ... a CLI.

Oh FFS this is what happens when software is basically finished, but people want to keep working on it

@fraggle I don't know, but I like qmmp for that style of player now.

@fraggle as far as I remember, it died out when GTK2 arrived and xmms2 was to be a rewrite to separate backend/frontend, as you've found. Beep media player was a fork of the original XMMS and to gtk2. then that ceased, BMPx was started instead, and then beep media player original was forked into Audacious. Audacious still has the Winamp2 interface, as well as a QT interface.

@ryan Ahh I remember Beep now. Thanks for the Audacious recommendation too, I did see that but the screenshots I saw made it look like an iTunes clone

@fraggle yeah, it seems like almost every media player has to have the itunes clone mode now hah

@fraggle I found this screenshot of one of my old setups a while back. I used WindowMaker before this Gnome 1 setup, so put the taskbar on the right.

@fraggle wmaker for life! Well, OK, I'm using i3 now, but, yeah...

@fraggle The frustrating part is it's getting increasingly hard to *have* this setup.

I still run gkrellm on work Linux because it's useful to see how close to complete meltdown the videoconfs are driving it, and check it's using the wired rather than wi-fi. It very much feels like it's been unmaintained for a decade and is due to get broken by the removal of some equally ancient X-specific library package any day now.

GNOME's been steadily embracing/extending/extinguishing.

@fraggle It was yonks ago they broke notification tray icons in other DEs into a weird slightly different thing; and in Bullseye I'm now getting GTK+3 GNOME-themed windows completely disregarding my own WM setup so they can do things like move Save buttons to unintuitive places that wreck muscle memory, like the title bar.

@fraggle Indeed. Very nice screenshot. Brings bank a ton of memories! gkrellm FTW!


WindowMaker is still active, I talked to one of the devs a couple of years back.

@fraggle god i LOVE WM and dockapps

genuinely my favorite window manager

@fraggle rippling water effect should run on your GPU these days.

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