using a free service? how about you just roll an american flag into a blunt and smoke it, you fucking communist!!

it's so fucking blatant. 'here's a list of nsa-approved paid vpns that will keep your data safe :))) from the devilish hands of the oriental :o'

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what the fuck is xi jinping gonna do with your data huh brett? what's he gonna do looking at your creepy porno and buying weed on the darknet because you're too scared of breaking the law to approach a dealer in person? post it in a vip chatroom for the boys to point and laugh at maybe? because that seems about the worst he could do

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if you're more concerned about fucking china spying on you than the nsa and cia — which, mind you, have been thoroly proven to do it and not just accused of it vaguely — you just might be, wait for it, a bit racist

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@esvrld that data rightfully belongs to your local corporate overlords, shitbag

@esvrld didn't "log-free" paid VPNs just leak a metric shit-ton of user logs?

@esvrld it's funny too considering the rash of stories coming out about "log free" VPNs turning over their non-existent logs to the FBI willingly

@esvrld I've been wondering about this in relation to Tik Tok lately. I've never touched Tik Tok and know absolutely nothing about it, but my first reaction to all the "countries are banning Tik Tok and other Chinese apps over privacy concerns" has been "Is this all just a racism thing or am I missing something?" I'm guessing it's just more anti-China racism disguised as something else, but I haven't read up on any of it yet.

@Lexi @esvrld tik tok is *definitely* stalker-y, but no more than twitter, facebook, or google. It's 95% racism and 5% kpop stans using tiktok to organize a campaign to lower attendance at trump rallies

@Lexi @esvrld bit of both. There's absolutely a racism component to it, but the app is genuinely doing shady things with user data

No more shady than twitter, facebook, and google, though, all of which should be a higher priority to kill off

@esvrld This would be hilarious, if there weren't people falling for that kind of FUD.

To be honest, the whole commercial VPN model is based on pure FUD from the start: pretty-much all providers are terrible at security, but also they will definitely give out logs or install wiretaps when the cops ask; they wouldn't be in business anymore if they didn't.

The main usecase they are useful for, is bypassing geoblocking, and using a free (and untrusted) service for that is ~fine.

@esvrld christ that is so awful. the article I posted was literally just talking about how a bunch of free VPNs were keeping logs when they claimed they didn't. is this from fox news or something? it's so racist it's disgusting.

@esvrld kinda reminds me of the "when you program open source, you're programming communism" posters, couldn't they be a little more transparent?

@esvrld honestly the only VPN I'd ever recommend other than VPNs to get into an existing private network is the one created by the United States Department of Defense (TOR)

@esvrld it's weird how "TOR was created by the US Department of Defense" is the strongest counter-argument to literally anything you can say about TOR, good or bad

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