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saw someone say that aikido makes a lot more sense when you realise the techniques were originally developed to be used against armoured enemies, but there aren't many of those around anymore; and the first part is debatably true, but for the latter, riot cops do in fact exist

i think what mass warfare with firearms did to martial arts, urban insurrections are going, and have already begun, to reverse

very roughly i think formalised martial arts arise in two circumstances: among marginalised underclasses denied the ability to wage symmetric combat (okinawan empty-handed techniques were developed in response to peasants being denied weapons, savate was invented b/c fistfighting carried heavy penalties), or among privileged warrior classes at low level endemic warfare

when the monopoly of force is working as advertised, martial arts are not useful, as superiority in numbers and materiel can be leveraged much more efficiently than trying to train individual enforcers — this is why cops are so bad at fighting, for example. when it starts to break down, the lumpens will start coming up with ways to counteract that superiority

this is v interesting on the class dynamics of martial arts. of note is that modern mixed martial arts developed from the gracie school of brazilian jiu jitsu

if there's a lesson to any of this, i think it's that leftists should start organising martial arts clubs

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This is a really good thread. I watch a lot of mainland and Hong Kong martial arts films and in none of them do I remember seeing the class conflict context of battles between martial arts schools.

Did you know about the background of concealing martial arts practice within Escrima and Capoeira?

@esvrld my personal favorite example of this phenomenon is capoiera, a martial art that is purposefully designed to look like dancing because it could be practiced by African slaves on Brazilian plantations who were otherwise obviously forbidden to learn any combat techniques. It focuses on sweeping and evasiveness because the expectation is that the fighter will be outnumbered. It evolved from Engolo, an Angolan ritual combat, that was brought over by people who had been enslaved. Eventually after Brazil abolished slavery capoiera was banned because the white upper classes caught on; it was basically driven underground, until the upper class decided that they could turn it into a sport/performance and make money off of it, which more or less brings us to the modern day

@esvrld What is a work session training for “de-arresting” but a martial arts lesson?

@esvrld if we want to be precise, aikidos's predecessor art of daitoryu jujutsu was; aikido itself is more of a modern adaption of that. the differences are quite significant, I've learned and studied some of the old techniques versus the ones taught in aikido; to provide an example, the latter would be a throw over the thigh while the former is executed as a throw *onto* the thigh with the aim of breaking the opponent's backbone

@esvrld I'm more inclined to lean into something like Escrima/Kali which emphasizes using improvised weapons against better armed/armored targets but there's still the issue of just how much better armed these cops are.

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