'real name' is a fake concept. people have always had multiple names. accepting the name in your official records as any more 'real' than any other you choose to be addressed by is merely acceding to capital's control over your reality

i mean this very literally. enforcing fixed identities on people, and in particular last names, which didn't exist in many areas, was an important step in the growth of the capitalist state, and necessary for bureaucratic control over individual lives. capitalism needs people fixed and pinned down in order to subordinate them to production. accepting such names as 'real' is internalising the machinery of control

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and in colonialised nations, the imposition of fixed identities is violent far more than just conceptually. having indigenous names has been made illegal, children forced to take 'real' names. the objective is the eradication of one reality, one self-concept, and its forceful replacement with another

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things like facebook's 'real name policy' resulting in banning native americans are not just techbro short-sightedness, they're a purposeful continuation of the same colonial violence

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and i don't need to go into how the concept of 'real names' is weaponised against trans people and trans identities

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i have no real name. i have a thousand masks with nothing behind. no part of me is fixed, no part of me is real

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My legal name is far less unique than my online handle. I've personally run in to maybe a dozen people with my first and last names. I most certainly do not own my name's domain.

My last name is just uncommon enough to not seem fake. But it is a color, and other people use it as a fake name.

My first name has had a solid run among the 100 most popular children's names. (Popular among my age/ethnicity.)

There's a 95% chance that 'yam655' is always me, though. (I own _that_ domain.)

@esvrld heard it referred to as "government name" which I liked as seemed most apt description of it.

@Luke @esvrld People from non-standard Alphabets, like Japanese, Vietnamese, or Korean peoples, also are mandated to have a name in English, even if they also keep their native one if you're immigrating to the US

@Syrel_And_Co @Luke @esvrld when my paternal grandparents emigrated from Mexico they took the last name "Smith" because "Archuleta" was considered "too hard to spell" by the clerk taking their applications.

@Syrel_And_Co @Luke @esvrld and shit I just looked up "Archuleta" and it's a lineage that goes back to Queen Isabella and has a registered crest. *that got taken from me* before I ever had a chance to know I could have it. and then, on the other side of that heritage... my father, in an attempt to reconcile with me that didn't actually involve apologizing for or mitigating any of the ways in which he was a giant dick, gave me a genealogy chart he'd researched about his family, and it was... telling, *extremely* telling, how five or six generations back there's a lot of "Signoir Fransisco de Varisa X Native Woman." like. a *lot*.


@troodon @Luke @esvrld You can probably still make motions to claiming rights to the name again if you want, but you probably don't because thats likely to be a Lot Of Shit at the very least, but there's probably channels you can go through for legal reclamation

@Syrel_And_Co @Luke @esvrld reh, I've already changed my government handle to my satisfaction, and my real/online/personal name(s) is more meaningful and important to me. though one of these days I should probably figure out what my Nahuatl name would be...

@esvrld I don't want to have a last name. I just want to be Luna Maria Elektra, with none of these three having "last name" status (all of them should be like German Vornamen (we don't differentiate between first and middle names here)). I'd rather be called "Ms. Luna" than "Ms. Elektra".

Also the German transgender name change process only allows changing Vornamen, so I'm going to be stuck with my legal last name for a long time unless I get married (and I'm not planning to do that).

@esvrld have you read Seeing Like A State? It gets into this very thing!

@esvrld My account name is my real name. It isn't my official name, but it is as real as a name as it can get.

@esvrld s/capital/state seems more general to me?

@esvrld @ccorax someone once called it "government alias" vs "real name" and im so on board w that

@esvrld "real name" is just a name you're not lying about calling yourself

"legal name" is the name the government wants you to have

"the real name that i have on my driver's licence"

"the way my name is formatted on my driver's licence"

"the name used for legal correspondence in this jursidiction" <--this one can be surprisingly inconsistent between jurisdictions even in the same country

"in accordance with the [name of legislation that enables the registry in your jurisdiction], my name on record"

[an affidavit with a table of names & docs they're found on and how to identify them - i use this a lot @work irl]


When my dad Immagrated to the US, he had a Hypenated last name and no middle name. The customs agents refused to write it down properly and made his first last name his middle name.

So for *years* he had to deal with people calling him "Mr.(second name)".

@esvrld damn that is so true. I see my "real name" as just alphabetical of my SSN, but not really. It means nothing in actuality

@esvrld a real name must not be the same as in official documents.
My real name was different then the one in documents, but it was not my nick name/pseudonym i used online; it was the name ppl addressed me IRL.

@esvrld i have no real name only fake names and pseudos, i got an official pseudo written on my papers, but it's certainly not a real name.

@esvrld I don't think this is something people choose to accept, yo

@esvrld This same process is at work with addresses as well; places often have many layers of history and names, but only the official post office one is acceptable to the state and corporations.

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