On standards divisions and collaboration (or: Why can't the decentralized social web people just get along?) https://dustycloud.org/blog/on-standards-divisions-collaboration/
@cwebber On a somewhat unrelated note: I think the real test for the decentralized social web won't be an attack from Facebook & Co, the real test will be when Mastodon et al. are mainstream enough to attract spammers, bots, nasty people etc. in large numbers. Will technical measures and decentralized moderation be able to hold up to this?
@arx That's a test that has happened before... identi.ca and both the OStatus and Pump API fediverses were overwhelmed with spam at one point. They survived, but yes such tooling will need to be written.
@cwebber Yes, I am optimistic, but I think it is a threat to be kept in mind. Btw, congratulations on the W3C Recommendation and thanks for the great work! 👍
I'm looking forward to PeerTube and Nextcloud etc. to keeping the ActivityPub momentum going.
@bob It's true that ActivityPub doesn't represent a key-based-identity solution directly, though work on that is being done in the SocialCG and I've even laid out how it could be done in a backwards compatible way https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rebooting-the-web-of-trust-fall2017/blob/master/final-documents/activitypub-decentralized-distributed.md
I don't know if the author of the "war is coming" blogpost still thinks there's a war or one coming. I hope not, and if not, great... but I still see that article passed around as a "history of federation" blogpost and that bothers me.
@bob I think a "Peoples' History of Federation" would be good, particularly if it tried hard to focus on the positive of everyone who has worked hard on this stuff. Want to work on it in the SocialCG? :)
@cwebber @bob Actually, to the contrary, Robek refuted the "war is coming" part in the same article, so it was a bit unfair to say he "characterizes it as war". To cite the original article: "Actually, there’s not a war coming. Really, things are just business as usual for the OStatus protocol networks which have been around for nearly a decade."
> This is a big deal, because OStatus is the technology that W3C maintains and develops and is “basically the standard” operating procedure for cohesive microblogging communities.
The W3C doesn't maintain OStatus at all. There are some other things as well. But anyway, okay. I removed the call for a federation history entirely.