imo what folks usually want out of decentralization isn't decentralization itself (which has its own cost/benefits), but _shared centralization_ where a single entity is credibly owned by those it affects.

So maybe uhhh... look into co-ops and such instead of cr/ypto?

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@zkat in this house crypto means cryptography ;)

But yes you're right, there's really two kinds of decentralization: "convergent decentralization" and "decentralized cooperating agents". I've been meaning to write up on this for a bit...

They're not at odds necessarily, but all the focus is on the former, but the problems society is actually needing to be solved are all in the latter camp...

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