omg. OMG. **OMG!!!**

Okay I know this sounds like nonsense but oh my god! Captp + handoffs on three *independent* peers over tor onion services, with everyone chatting over goblin-chat!

Each user has their own address on the p2p network! *No* central server!

This is HUGE!

If it isn't obvious why this is huge, and I guess my post doesn't make it obvious:

This is a completely peer to peer, end to end encrypted chat system written in *250 lines of code*. @spritelyproject's Goblins abstracts away the network/cryptography elements for you.

Oh yeah, and if you're *still* not excited yet, let me explain this to you in other words.

Once this is out, the real fun thing begins...

A distributed, federated MUD.

No really. For real.

@cwebber

yeah sure. nice proof of work, but

1. its still much easier for me to explain my mother how to use my matrix server

2. clearnet is by design more reliable than tor (1 known-good tcp/ip connection vs 3+ unknown connections in sequence)

3. clearnet is by design more performant than tor (1 known-good tcp/ip connection vs 3+ unknown connections in sequence)

@mk @cwebber clearly this wasn’t intended to demonstrate a use case for your mother

@codeforchaos @cwebber

"my mother" is a metaphor for regular non-techi people.

there is much more of them than us and if you want to make a change to privacy in the world, you have to build technology that they can use.

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@mk @codeforchaos I have a pet peeve against the "mothers don't know how to compute" meme.

I happen to have a lot of programming friends who are also moms these days. I get frustrated on their behalf every time I hear this come up.

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@cwebber @mk @codeforchaos One of my boomer relatives is a mother, and was also an application programmer and database administrator before retiring. She's not as savvy as some of the younger developers, but no one has ever had to fix her computer, nor will she let them try.

@cwebber @mk @codeforchaos Point is: age, gender, and number of children do not necessarily determine ability to use a computer.

Look at how many millennials and zoomers are "computer illiterate", where even mobile platforms are intimidating if they get outside their comfort zones.

@cwebber @mk @codeforchaos I am a programmer, taught by my mother, who was arguably second-gen if you count industrial robot control circuitry and looms, and my daughter who calls me mom will learn from me. So, thank you.

@cwebber @mk @codeforchaos (I also have a positively annoying time wasting my hours retraining on tech update that could have just kept the old standard shortcut keys.)

@mk @feonixrift @cwebber @codeforchaos

If we generalize the discussion at bit once more. Anyone who's willing to lower the barrier to entry to using, adopting, implementing and extending our #fediverse technology base for people from all walks in life and across our globe, is most welcome to join #SocialHub and participate in doing so.

There's tons of things to be done, between deepest tech levels and easy-to-use, unobtrusive experiences offered by fabulous apps :)

@cwebber I present my mother. She's capturing electrophysiological data from shrimp on the PDP-11.

@cwebber @mk @codeforchaos That’s why I just use the phrase ‘normies’ instead, doesn’t discriminate.

@cwebber @mk @codeforchaos yeah i feel like this finally died during the zeros but the "explain it to your mom" attitude really bothered me back then too

my mom taught me how to use an ibm-3270 text editor for fortran. "explain it to my mom" always consists of me explaining what's *new* since then, nothing more

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