Thanks to @emacsomancer for forwarding to me this article about "demetrification" of social media https://www.wired.com/story/internet-healthier-without-like-counts/ (not showing like counts, follower counts, etc) and how dramatically user behavior is changed when we do expose these things.
On BoingBoing: https://boingboing.net/2019/09/12/flickrs-glory-days.html
Here's the other thing: exposing like and follower counts on the fediverse is, quite frankly, mostly bullshit. It's so easy to fake, either by giving a number that isn't true or by generating fake responses trivially.
@cwebber this is one of the things that I appreciate about VSCO (a proprietary photo app with social network attached). There are no metrics at all. It's so pleasant
@cwebber it's not like it's hard on Twitter either; there's an enormous market for fake followers. It'd be tempting to call it a black market, but that would suggest that Twitter disapproves, which is clearly not true.
@cwebber Will be glad if they're gone.
Don't know what's put this topic into the atmosphere, but over lunch I'm reading this on the Baffler:
It is funny in a meta way that we need to see evidence that showing likes and follows is bad delivered from an authoritative source. It speaks to why people get addicted to likes and follows in the first place, it is a label of value placed on by an authority.
All you have to do is stop and listen to the way we all talk about likes and follow counts to know they are bad.
and we are giving the value of hours and hours of attention and creative output a day to massive corporations for almost nothing in return at all
I support two buttons: one “like” which directly tells the poster “I’ve seen/enjoyed your toot.” And a “read” button which flags the toot as seen/replied. (Helps manage multithreaded conversations especially.) More than that just muddles things and feeds fame games.
@dirtycommo @cwebber @Alonealastalovedalongthe It is true. I ditched FB and Birdsite a few years ago. Once in a blue moon I go back to Birdsite for this and that and am struck by how much worse it gets, despite a feeling that it “cannot get worse”. Ha.
The attention (surveillance) economy is utterly demonic, no doubt. Flush it.
@cwebber I think it'd be great to eliminate the idea of counts.
Not to be crude or pedestrian, but I always was impressed how deftly the show Community skewered the idea of social media rankings in their episode about the people-rating app "MeowMeowBeenz" (5x08, "App Development and Condiments, cf. https://community-sitcom.fandom.com/wiki/MeowMeowBeenz). @emacsomancer
@cwebber @emacsomancer There is also a time dimension for the metrics. An artist once made a browser extension that "demetricated" Facebook. Besides hiding counts, it also made the timestamps more approximate. https://bengrosser.com/projects/facebook-demetricator/
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