8chan's founder says "shut it down" https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/technology/8chan-shooting-manifesto.html
@cwebber what a piece of shit. too late, fucko.. you made your bed, now lie in it.
@cwebber "There’s this idea that if we have unbridled freedom of speech that the best ideas will fall out. But I don’t really think that’s true any more. I mean, I’ve looked at 8chan and I’ve been its admin, and what happens is the most rage-inducing memes are what wins out.”
@cwebber Uh, as an aside, but... did Cloudflare's executive just admit they effectively operate as a giant spying apparatus for US law enforcement?
(I mean... I know they do, but like. It's unusual that they'd outright come out and *say* it.)
@alis Oh wow, I think you're right:
> Among other things, that resulted in us cooperating around monitoring potential hate sites on our network and notifying law enforcement when there was content that contained an indication of potential violence. We will continue to work within the legal process to share information when we can to hopefully prevent horrific acts of violence
Troubling for different reasons, but unsurprising.
@cwebber The text in the original NYT article was even more blatant, IMO. Cloudflare walked it back su-uu-uper quickly, then kicked off 8chan released that blog post (obviously after the lawyers and PR people had gotten to it).
I only grabbed an excerpt of the original, but it was quite explicitly Prince saying, "If we kicked 8chan off our network […] law enforcement would have less visibility into what’s going on." Which... 😬
@cwebber "In recent months, 8chan has become a go-to resource for violent extremists."
in recent months
> “Another 8chan shooting?” he tweeted on Saturday. “Am I ever going to be able to move on with my life?”
this strikes me as remarkably self-centered considering his creation is everyone else's problem too
not for the faint of heart
> He was upset that 4chan had become too restrictive, and he envisioned a site where any legal speech would be welcome, no matter how toxic.
Here in Mexico we have a centuries-old saying, if you can excuse the gloomy imagery:
"Ahogado el niño, tapado el pozo." Which can be translated as: "They closed the well (only) after the kid drowned."
Or, as english-speakers say, hindsight is 20/20.
Shutdown an advance warning system for shootings.
@cwebber Hehe, people will move to activitypub from 8chan 🧐
@cwebber "Mr. Brennan started the online message board as a free speech utopia."
Bullshit, he started the board as a Gamergate targeted harassment utopia. He's not the good guy here.