an appeal to the fediverse regarding anti-abuse 

Dear fediverse:

Fascism joining the fediverse is extremely bad, and we have to do something about it. But please, please, please: give me two weeks before you roll out any new solutions. Some of the solutions being proposed look like they will make the situation better but will make it much worse.

I am dropping nearly everything to write a demo and spec explaining how to do things right. Please give me two weeks. I've been preparing for this.

an appeal to the fediverse regarding anti-abuse 

As a hint as to why the current solutions aren't going to work, I'll point you to what happened when Mastodon rolled out direct messages with OStatus, but they *weren't really* private messages. An admirable attempt but it needed a different approach.

I believe this could be like that, but 10x worse. I've been studying what will happen under different approaches and trying hard to figure out how to map a solution onto what we have.

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an appeal to the fediverse regarding anti-abuse 

@cwebber what are their solutions that you find bad?

an appeal to the fediverse regarding anti-abuse 

@wilkie @cwebber more signatures, more metadata leakage, continuation of the authentication as authorization regime

an appeal to the fediverse regarding anti-abuse 

@kaniini @wilkie And it isn't obvious to people why this is bad. At first glance, it *looks* good; for some things it's fine: we can block a Gab or two, but anyone can start a new instance. Eventually we endi up at fediverse nation-states with border patrol guards, or a whitelisting of instances, which quickly results in defederation. Other problems but I'd have to refer to the literature.

A "network of consent" approach is the alternate option.

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an appeal to the fediverse regarding anti-abuse 

@kaniini @wilkie On top of that, there are things the network will *no longer be able to do* that are exciting, cool futures if we go this route. Not only will the network degrade, we'll lose the opportunity to grow in ways that are very interesting, to be able to do the kind of rich interactions that aren't even possible on contemporary centralized social networks.

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an appeal to the fediverse regarding anti-abuse 

@cwebber @kaniini for me, I often think "is federation the actual goal or is it a consequence of a technology" and for the technical folks it seems to be one thing and for users another

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