Was talking about Mastodon with an old-school sysadmin guy. We reached the realization that defederating from instances with no/bad moderation is essentially the same thing as blocking open relays back when you ran your own email server: open relays always end up getting used for spam, you block 'em to protect your users.

Email was and still is the first federated social network, so it already faced a lot of the same problems; we should study its solutions (and its failures).

@nindokag Yes, this is why the paper that I'm writing on anti-spam on the Fediverse with @cwebber references email and email anti-spam techniques a great deal.


@emacsen @nindokag Though I also think email misinformed a lot of the future approaches to come... I do think we can do better.

But we should certainly learn from it! :)

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