Looking at world news as well as some of the troubles the current fediverse is hitting... I'm really starting to feel like I don't have a choice but to throw myself into building a censorship resistant, safer-against-abuse version of the fediverse full time. I know how to do it, and I could potentially coast for a while doing it. But I'm very worried about not being able to get a good enough income to sustain the work. But it feels so urgent.
I'm not sure what to do. :\
>censorship resistant, safer-against-abuse
pretty sure you only get to pick one of these.
@fradleybox Depends on the kind of abuse. I know how to reduce spam and dogpiling problems for instance.
@cwebber okay, I'll bite. how do you curtail spam and/or dogpiling without censoring the messages or users constituting/perpetuating those behaviors?
@fradleybox I have this drawn up on paper and I've meant to write it up. I guess I should type it up this week... I was in the process of doing so last week but I lost steam. We'll call it the OcapPub approach to ActivityPub for now.
@fradleybox I have the workflows drawn up as Granovetter Diagrams right now but that's a visual social-graph-introduction language that not many people are familiar with. It will take time to distill it into user stories people can understand.
@cwebber seriously now you're just making up words, you lost me at "on paper"
@fradleybox ok :\
Document it, convince people that if you build it it will be used, and set up a patreon/etc.
There are censorship-resistent networks already though, the question is why people don't already use them?
I would throw some cash at this problem, too.
Also, being able to run Mastodon/Pleroma/whatever on an Tor Hidden Service and still be able to communicate with the rest of Fediverse would be a boon.
@rysiek @cwebber Amen to that. There's a marketing side to this too, though. It's self-evident by now that generally, people don't care about their rights. They only care about ease, comfort, and self-narratives. People didn't come to Mastodon because it was free, or liberating. They came because it was easy and it was comfortable (less abuse than Twitter), and they could weave a feel-good story about their participation. Harnessing this dynamic is crucial.
Seeing how often the tin cup is passed around these parts, it can’t be overstated how asymmetric this fight is. Them upstairs can buy whoever for whatever, whenever. I doubt most people will ever hear of Mastodon, never mind the others. FB and Birdsite come preloaded on phones.
This is a guerrilla effort now.
@cwebber surely this would be something P2P?
There's quite a lot of projects already... Scuttlebutt, DAT, Briar etc.
@cwebber Just brought that up as they all need SO much help.
I feel much the same with a different emphasis. I threw myself into something similar - albeit more focused upon publishing - over a year ago. My income is so consistently low I can give very little to such work. Even as the necessity of such work has become more evident to me, I have consistently doubted that there is a sustainable demographic of people able to appreciate its value & both willing and able to pay for it.
It could change. But when? We have by now gone crossed so many red lines.
Know that a lot of people are with you on this. I'm working on some aspects of it, if you want to find a time to chat.
Set up a donation page, but I'd understand if you decide it's a crazy thing to do.
I'd love it if you did, personally. Freedom is for those crazy enough to fight forit.
@cwebber Well, build it and they will come, sayeth the fell voices... And if they don’t... Call it a mitzvah.
@cwebber Welcome to my world!
do what you need to do, first and always
fixing the world isn't on you. You've already given a lot, and with any luck you'll be able to keep helping along the way.
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