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Getting a little tired of the anecdata as proof of why folks need to go back into the office:

theguardian.com/science/2021/j

yes, we miss a lot of the social cues in an online-only environment, but the answer is not to flock into office spaces and abandon the technology. the answer is to make better tools and understand the issues involved while making those tools.

The office culture of the early 21st century is dead. Let's not get too precious in how we mourn it.

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@craigmaloney or build cults of personality when we are treated like cattle meant to be lead to slaughter after being worn down to a nub

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Yes, what they are talking about with the collaboration I've seen happening on IRC. There's no other way we could have worked with Vagrant of Reproducible builds to get Librecast into debian experimental and passing reproducibility tests. He's on a different continent for a start.

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@craigmaloney So many of the arguments proffered sound to me like distant echos of ancient philosophers bemoaning the death of intellect with the advent of writing.

"How are people going to remember things? OMFG"

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@craigmaloney Honestly, our whole IT team is best accessed by IM. The programmers don't pick up the phone. Everyone else is so swamped it's easier to IM them and whoever frees up first can grab it. I've always been one of the main call takers regardless of my position and the most valuable thing I know is who can actually help if it's not me. Text is probably ultimately the department's primary medium of communication. Very few of us primarily use sound.

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@bluestarultor @craigmaloney Yea. Of course, a writing first office breaks down when a couple of the people involved have a hard time with things like reading and writing (dyslexia, functional illiteracy, horrible at communication, etc.).

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@jollyrogue @craigmaloney "Horrible at communication" is like a programmer default. XD

There are always phone calls. You don't HAVE to be face-to-face to talk. And call software (soft phone) exists and is quite mature. All you need is a mic and headphones, or a cheap USB headset. Many laptops have a mic built right in.

The idea everyone needs to see your shining face in person is outdated at best. It's purely cultural, and culture can change.

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@bluestarultor @craigmaloney I’m mostly complaining about management. I can communicate via code.😆

I really dislike taking a phone call. I don’t mind video calls, but audio only calls are the worst. 😑I have some really nice Bluetooth headphone with mics which help, but still not my favorite thing.

I’d much rather communicate async via a written method. Send an email/IM, open a ticket… Ultimately, it’s easier for me to schedule my time that way.

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@craigmaloney

agree, some bosses just like bums on seats and ignore the productivity side of it

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@craigmaloney some of the cues are just easier to get in person.

Also the better tech solutions are going to need a lot of real estate in peoples homes.

I believe we also waste a lot of the benefits of WFH, unless offices are going to start giving all employees large private offices and exceptionally flexible work conditions.

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@craigmaloney I'm very happy my new job wants two days in the office, 3 days where ever you like. Enough office time for collaboration, enough home office time to get stuff done.

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