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Sort of asking for advice re: Dropbox replacements 

So Dropbox is starting to focus more on being a portal for business and less on being that big dumb syncing drive that we all want.

If I were to ditch Dropbox and start exploring other options what would be the closest to the Dropbox experience. That is: syncing files between Ubuntu and Android devices, grabbing photos off of my Android phone, and handling merge conflicts on a text file without mangling the file.

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One small wrinkle is that I'm rather attached to a program called SimpleTasks for handling my todo.txt. I think the only things that it will sync with are owncloud and Dropbox.

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Thank you all. I think Syncthing is going to do the trick. Will blog about my results.

Thanks again!

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@craigmaloney Syncthing or NextCloud. I think syncthing is probably what you are looking for, but I think its easier to backup NextCloud.

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@gedvondur @craigmaloney this. Depending on how dumb you want it to be, Nextcloud can do many things: sync your contacts and calendar, upload your photos, fetch RSS for you. I don't have experience with Syncthing but I think it's very simple and just fetches new versions of files?

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@charlag @craigmaloney Exactly. Syncthing is very simple, no central point, where NextCloud is comprehensive. I run a nextcloud on a Raspberry Pi with a 4tb external USB drive on it. Not super fast, but okay. Then I back it up onto my Synology.

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@charlag @craigmaloney Now that I think about it, Synology Cloud Drive would also serve as a good replacement, but it means buying a Synology NAS.

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@gedvondur What's wrong with a Synology NAS?

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@dredmorbius @charlag @craigmaloney Nothing. Been using them for years. Just a lot more expensive solution than the other two and some folks are "OPEN SOURCE ONLY." So I usually start with those solutions.

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@gedvondur What would your suggestion for a LAN NAS in the 4-16 TB range be, HW & SW? I'd prefer smaller, quieter, and lower power consumption.

Synology's been one option. I have a Turris Omnia, which has a NAS enclosure kit available.

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@gedvondur Roles include backing up linux and macos systems (possibly Android and IOS), media server, PXEboot / VM image server would be nice to have.

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@dredmorbius Reading this now, I still stand by the idea of the Synology. Should be a good option for you. I also use external USB drive to back it up, running 4 drives as a SHR RAID group.

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@dredmorbius @charlag @craigmaloney Well what are your performance requirements? 10GbE? For my rig, I run a Synology DS918+. Can do LCAP bonded gigabit Ethernet, memory expansion and you can do relatively high IOPS with the addition of 2 M.2 NVMe SSDs for read/write caching. Max 64TB internal, max 144TB with expansion units. I would not use the Omnia for that, I prefer dedicated hardware. QNAP makes a good NAS as well.

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@gedvondur GigE and WiFi, mostly. Performance shouldn't be a real hurdle.

Physical footprint (the Synology 4-drive boxes are a good baseline), power, noise, and flexibility are.

The Turris NAS is 2 disks only.
Turris offers numerous services via OpenWRT, sho bypassing Synology (or anything else's) proprietary crud should be doable.

I'm fairly hardcore Linux myself. Shell tools preferred to GUI.

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@dredmorbius @charlag @craigmaloney For me it's less about command line or Linux, its about data protection and ease of use. NAS is an appliance, one you administer via CLI is something of an oxymoron. However, I get where you are coming from. Just back everything up obsessively. 😉

@craigmaloney Back in the days when ownCloud was super slow (remember, it's PHP) I switched to seafile.com/ and am still happy with that.
It is less powerful than NextCloud and unfortunately does not federate, but handles file syncing and sharing quite well.

For not needing a server at all you could also try SyncThing, but I don't have any recent experience with that.

@craigmaloney Seafile's Android app supports automatic photo upload from your phone. Also its versioning mechanism is somehow adapted from git, so it shouldn't mess up your text files too badly.

@craigmaloney i'm using nextcloud on zaclys instance. I'm also a syncthing user but nextcloud looks more equivalent to dropbox.

Sort of asking for advice re: Dropbox replacements 

@craigmaloney

Syncthing or Seafile

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@craigmaloney nextcloud (which provides an owncloud compatible api) has a raspberry pi image. I haven't used it yet. I don't love their code, but the feature set is pretty solid.

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@craigmaloney If it works with owncloud it should also "just work" with nextcloud.

It's likely using web dav or similar behind the scenes.

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@kemonine Is it? Bleh. 😁

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@craigmaloney it's not as bad as you think 😉

it's still a common "thing" at times.

box may also be ano ther one to look into but i don't know if they have a proper linux client these days

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@craigmaloney

I use simpletasks with syncthing to run my life. Works beautifully. I have one node that is always on, and with it running it acts almost exactly like Dropbox.

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@craigmaloney

Simpletasks can sync to a 'local only' directory that a separate program syncs for you. That's how I have my syncthing set up.

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@craigmaloney Doesn't it handle plain WebDAV? That's exposed by both nextCloud ans Seafile.

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@craigmaloney I need this too :/

@craigmaloney about Syncthing just a warning if you are trying to use it in a company. I had to switch important files to Nextcloud because Syncthing protocols is not liked by firewalls. Nextcloud / Owncloud, Seafile can work on HTTPS which is not the case for Syncthing.

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@craigmaloney looks like NextCloud is the obvious choice. I'm going to switch to it as soon as I can be bothered with reading a tutorial on setting it up on my Ubuntu VPS (don't want to go to a hosted service.)

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@craigmaloney
Nextcloud is more of a one to one replacement for dropbox. Syncthing really just syncs folders. Syncthing is also really simple to set up, while Nextcloud requires setting up a server. I use both.

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@craigmaloney of you work much with Linux and Android, the Syncthing should be a choice. It’s just a dumb file synchronizer, no more, no less

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@craigmaloney OneDrive works, I think.

@craigmaloney I kind of read the "this time I want it to be free software" as implicit. Was I wrong?

@cambridgeport90

@clacke @craigmaloney Not at all. Syncthing is another one I can think of right off the top of my head. Think it's sort of like rsync.

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@craigmaloney NextCloud

I've replaced OneDrive, DropBox, Box.com and others with it easily.

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@kemonine I'm using Syncthing right now and it's doing the trick for me. Thanks!

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@craigmaloney Guess what my fallback is?

😉

Both have a place.

I prefer NextCloud when I don't need/want full sync (you can get selective more easily with it).

That and I can do sharing with others and some other things a lot easier with NextCloud.
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