I've been trying Kdenlive instead of Adobe Premiere Pro for video editing as an experiment over the weekend for a lil music video for a friend I filmed a while ago. I've had to think outside the box a bit and massively change my workflow for multi-camera stuff and the compositing is very basic but overall it's not too bad for a quick easy video editor =)
@Shrigglepuss What about OpenShot? Ever tried that? If so, how does it compare?
@UnclearFuture I tried OpenShot briefly a few months ago, of the two I think Kdenlive is probably the better one but I didn't try OpenShot out for as long so still worth giving it a go!
@Shrigglepuss Thank you, I'm going to try it out OpenShot one day, I would try Kden but don't like KDE or GNOME with the way they force having a load of libraries and programs etc you don't necessarily want or need, on you, heh.
@UnclearFuture Yeah, using a Kdenlive wasn't ideal because I use GNOME. Wayland struggled a bit with it, had to switch to Xorg for some of the dialogue windows to work, but apart from that it seemed fine!
@Shrigglepuss That's a shame. How is Wayland? I haven't had a chance to try it out yet since I only use XFCE.
@UnclearFuture For me personally it's been fine, been using it since it was default in Fedora, only really had issues with this program and colour pickers up to now =D
@Shrigglepuss Interesting about the colour pickers, but maybe they're only coded for xorg? If they're from like websites etc, why would they not be able to pick them up? Hmmm.
@UnclearFuture I'm not sure to be honest, but the gimp colour picker or a stand-alone one I tried didn't work so I presume it's picking whatever colour is under the cursor in an xorg-only way (colour pickers that can pick from anywhere on the screen btw)
@Shrigglepuss Intreguing, is there a bug report/issue on their github or whatever?
@UnclearFuture I'm not sure, but I presume they're working on it- both were GTK3 programs =) It's not a huge deal, I just take a screenshot and pick the colour from the image if needed, it's very rare I need to do this to be fair
@Shrigglepuss Ah, okay. Thanks for sharing your experiences!
@UnclearFuture No worries! How's XFCE these days? I've not used it for a few years, has much changed over there?
@Shrigglepuss Stable, it doesn't change massively, I think that's what I like a lot about it, it doesn't change a lot and remains fairly stable because of it, it doesn't require a lot of programs or libraries to be installed (unlike GNOME/KDE) and has pretty much everything I need/want plus if you want some programs like a screenshooter it has those in its optional to install section of programs :)
@UnclearFuture Yay! It was my main desktop environment when Gnome 3 was still fresh, I remember it like an old friend so I'm happy to hear things are still much the same over there =D
For a way to implement it outside of the window manager, I suggest you take a look at: https://appcenter.elementary.io/com.github.spheras.desktopfolder
@xrevan86 Ah, I see.
I don't know.
here are however two things I cannot currently do in Wayland.
Stream content from my desktop, there is a hacky plugin for obs to use the gnome screen recorder for a task it was clearly not designed for, but I can only select ‘montiors’ and not arbitrary windows to stream. This doesn’t come up much for me.
Draw art, because GIMP is currently on GTK2, which is not wayland compatable, and Krita, which while on QT5, does not yet support wayland and (apparently) does not intend to until at least 2019. xwayland will ‘accept’ a tablet because for all it cares its just another pointer, but it will not allow for pen pressure (and it does wonky shit because it doesn’t really like how two pointers exist).
Desktop icons have always been on the desktop environment to impliment, regardless of on X11 or Wayland, and while I disagreed with Gnome’s Decision to drop them before a replacement is ready, there is now a plugin that implements it as an extension (which i assume will be added to the Gnome list of supported extensions because it fits nicely into ‘Gnome Classic’)
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