@stoof I understand! It took twenty years of hard work and schooling prior to getting a job as an apprentice toolmaker in an automotive foundry. Twenty years after that, working in the trades, building dies for transmissions. Retirement is wonderful, but the mansplaining continues! I recently got a lecture on how to use a fulcrum and cheater pipe to increase leverage ... from someone who has known me for 30 years, and knows what my job was. 😩