some thoughts on "trigger warnings"
I give up. Whatever. If you are so God-awful sensitive that you can't handle a well-within the bounds of normal discussion debate on politics, then there's not much point in anything.
but I will be polite.
@Migukin I agree. I'm not sure how we got to this place where having a civilized discussion is so difficult. The whole point is to be exposed to a different POV. Safe spaces shouldn't be a thing, but civility should.
@Trav1sty @Migukin It's not about not being able to handle it, it's about having some time without thinking too hard about something that already ruins your life as it is.
Just like if you break up with someone you'll prefer not to see them too much for a while. The effect is the same about politics when it has too many direct consequences on your life.
Having even a civilized discussion about something that is in fact depressing hurts people.
I pretty much completely disagree with what you just wrote. But you are the majority and I want to keep things civil, so I won't press the issue. I understand that Twitter has left you violated mentally in some ways -- it has me -- but it has also toughened me up in others. As long as the discussion is civil, I see no need to gratuitously use the CW. But my general response is -- Meh.
Shrug. Now I don't know if I can have any conversation with anyone on this service without accidentally triggering them. But I will press on. :-)
@Migukin @CobaltVelvet I don't see how that's feasible. At which point do U consider the basic things around U as "too much to handle?" There's nothing wrong with trying to shield your feelings from what's going on around you, but at the same time, it's not practical. Life is going to happen whether you like it or not. Maybe just step back, regroup, and then rejoin? That would be a healthier repose than "I need a safe place" (which you should already have at home.)
@Trav1sty @Migukin Fun fact: this is 100% said by people who never experienced it, who never had to live in fear, who never had their basic needs ignored by their country, who do not have to watch targeted oppression every single day of their life *everywhere*.
What's really not practical is to stay alone at home doing drugs just to stay alive a few more days.
That's why we're building safe places, we don't all have a safe and fulfilling home.
@Trav1sty @Migukin By all of this I mean: do you have to see people wanting to literally murder you in a genocide and strip you of all human rights, *on a daily basis*, even when just playing a MP game, trying to think about something else?
Well I do. And I can guarantee you that however thick your skin can be, it will eventually get to you and you'll end up either crying in your bed or doing too much drugs or blowing up a public place. No one wants that.
It's pointless to discuss this. You're obviously too easily "triggered" and anything I say at this point will only make matters worse. Godspeed.
I am triggered by this statement.
I was definitely triggered by that statement.
@Migukin (Of course, then you followed that up with this, so -- you may want to strive for 'polite' a little harder. Childish mockery usually doesn't fall in those bounds.)
Um.....whatever happened to "irony." But I am in the minority. I will try my hardest to abide by what people want on this service. What people want is no discussion on anything that might cause any triggering at all. And so I feel as though maybe this service is not the Twitter replacement I had hoped.
Ironic, sure. Irony about other people's suffering is the crotch kick joke of irony. It's pathetic punching down.
Here's another example of irony: It's behind a click. You're arguing about a single CLICK, and you're still miffed about it. Other people are asking in relation to their psychological well-being.
You are miffed about a CLICK.
They are 'miffed' about something survival-related.
If that's not irony, then I guess I don't know what is. :wink:
Never go to a Dave Chappelle show or Amy Schumer show. I try to use the CW feature CLICK as much as possible, but the service does not have a universal CW feature as best I can tell, so people like me accidentally trigger people without meaning to. Sigh. We're all doomed. Only the extremes will discuss anything now and civil discussion of moderates is over.
@Migukin (Neither sends me messages about how emotionally annoyed they are about my sensitivities, but sure, that analogy holds up. :joy: FTR, I enjoy both quite a bit. Ask either what the general rule about 'punching down' is, and they'll know it, even if they occasionally violate it. And you know it's a developing technology. Nobody is asking you to stop talking. They're asking you to lower your voice, and it's not unreasonable or worth mocking.)
@Migukin (And to clarify: Your feelings about the service weren't in question. I understood them. They are a lesser priority than the feelings of people who experience genuine psychological harm, instead of 'inconvenience'. If you need to complain about it more, feel free. I've said all I think I can cogently say on the matter, but I'm sure there's nits to pick. I think you've made up your mind, or you're a very eloquent troll, and either way, I'm bowing out of the discussion.)
You have triggered me too much. This service is not for me, at least for the time being. So, have your safe space. I may come back occasionally, but I prefer being able to have civil discussion without people freaking out.
The biggest safe space in the world is the one for those willing and capable to engage the SQ, because it IS the world.
So go have your safe space.
If you want a discussion about why some forms of speech are less worth protecting than others, I'm sure folks on this group would be happy to challenge you.
But you can't walk away from the concept. You won't learn anything!
(That's irony, since you didn't seem sure earlier.)
@Migukin Gee, I wonder what a troll would say and do here.
@Migukin @Trav1sty It's a feature made just for that, it's free, it helps people, I just don't see any negative effect.
I mean just mention an example of transphobia and I'll have to to pay Doom for 2h just to calm down and try not to cleanse hate out of the world with napalm. It's not entirely a handling problem, it's just facts are honestly terrifying and I'm much better off if I don't think of it more than life already makes me.