Decent technologies should leverage the fall of intellectual "property".
CJDNS, IPFS, Dat, SSB, et. al. are paving a way to a parallel crisis for propertarians as Automation is paving one for proletarians / lumpen proletarians.
@fabianhjr how does automation create a crisis for the proletariat? automation will make the propertarians obsolete and liberate the proles!
@gc as long as they remain dispossessed of the means of production, specially including automated means of production, they would be increasingly pushed towards the lumpenproletariat.
@fabianhjr while that's true, I think it will be an increasingly unlikely future as more and more people just download the means of production (which you can already do, btw)
@gc not true though for material needs though.
Eg, can't download a farm _but_ the permaculture / solarpunk movements are making strides to help there.
@fabianhjr not only can you already download a farm in the year of our lord 2018, you can download a *fully automated* farm that is simultaneously ridiculously energy/water efficient and capable of getting significantly larger yields of food per sq foot than even the most grizzled human gardener can. oh, and the design is open source, it can be scaled to any size, and most of the parts can be 3d printed.
@gc In George Takei's voice: oh my. :O
@fabianhjr hoo boy, you think farmbot is cool? then the civilization starter kit is gonna go blow your mind.
(shoutout to @KevinCarson1 for showing me this!)
@gc @kyzh @fabianhjr @KevinCarson1
Hmm that link gives me an untrusted ssl and then a server error
@webmind @KevinCarson1 @fabianhjr @kyzh huh, weird, it was working just fine a couple hours ago, looks like it's an error w the cloudflare setup. the civilization starter kit is only at v0.01 right now fwiw, so someone probably just accidentally broke something while moving fast and building cities
@kyzh @fabianhjr @KevinCarson1 @webmind @falgn0n oh jk, it ended up being something far more mundane. see: https://opensocial.africa/@falgn0n/100004184333408724 for non broken links
@gc
Open Source Ecology is a nice project but the social/community side has hampered progress.
I'm involved organising a Farm Hack event in North Wales this October, turns out an old friend is bringing what looks like a 'farm.bot on wheels' that hes building. One of the guys at the hosting coop farm is also building something similar, modifying his design.
Think the idea is to battery power them.
Theres been a steady stream of people suddenly stop working on OSE since right in the early days due to this.
Its a real shame coz the ideas grab peoples imagination.
Somehow the project appears to largely monopolise the 'open source hardware/software for living sustainably' space, or at least, for some reason nothing else has really managed to attracted similar levels of attention. Which is a bit strange considering ..
@dazinism @falgn0n @webmind @fabianhjr @kyzh @gc
