Frankenbeans 🖖 @Frankenbeans@octodon.social

@jason If I'm an instance moderator, I have every right to pick who can belong and who can federate. If I join a council that issues edicts on the internal behavior of other instances, I am no longer setting rules for my own users. I am setting rules for moderators of other instances by threatening a boycott of federation, which in Mastodon world is the same as a boycott of trade.

@Mike And how you define harassment.

@xj9 @jsavalle It's oppressive to everyone. If I toot something the White Council finds offensive, then my instance moderator is under pressure to bounce me or risk shunning. That's crap.

@gargron @james People have been bandying about that and other things the last few days.

@jason Because that ceases to be a matter of purely internal affairs. It also punishes people who belong to an instance judged problematic who have done nothing wrong by blocking their association with other instances.

@james Decentralized social media and "whitelist councils" that issue conduct-based edicts are incompatible.

@DickyPye That's why god created the block button, and why individual Instance mods can create their own rules about internal conduct and who they'll federate with.

@jason Maybe. I just don't buy that the remedy is a central code of conduct enforced by a self-appointed council of behavior monitors. Octodon has a very clear code of conduct by which this instance will permit internal behavior and who it will federate with. There is no need for instance mods to get together to issue rulings on who is welcome and who is shunned.

@TheRealMe Yes. This reminds me of all the old people on Facebook who complain when I swear.

A month ago, everyone: "Yay, the freedom of decentralized social media where communities can form around their own values and according to their own internal rules."

Today, everyone: "What we need is a central code of conduct by which everyone must conform or risk punishment imposed by people outside their community."

New boss, same as the old boss.

@GinnyMcQueen So much for the decentralized nature of Mastodon with each instance governed by its own community.

Before any of you cow punchers get uppity, credit for the first use of "toot" in tutorial goes to the Kingdom of Loathing.

@miramarco Yeah, I saw that. The comment about depression being sexy was definitely inappropriate. On the other hand, one of my first Mastodon experiences was watching Ginny melt down about the number of men she blocked for harassment. She posted links. In most cases it was someone disagreeing with her or asking her for evidence for harassment.

@miramarco Maybe I spend time in tge right places, but has anyone actually cited an example of harassment? I've seen people talking about it. I've seen no one offer an actual example.

@jason Good job!

I'm connected to a college friend who is SUPER active on LinkedIn. i don't know what spamming on LinkedIn looks like, but this guy is probably the poster child for it. He keeps talking about his brand as a marketing manager, and his posts are full of grammar errors. On one hand, I want to reach out and be like, "Duuuuuude," and on the other who can resist watching a train wreck?

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