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telegram:

- very good android, ios, and desktop open-source apps they keep properly up to date (also a web client)
- stickers, emojos, gifs (and with better compression)
- useful bots (and inline bots)
- groups and good admin tools
- nicely including voice or video in chats
- now even favorites

- requires a phone number (not public)
- is not very secure (but above average)
- is centralized and not entirely open (they haven't been evil for now)

@CobaltVelvet actually security is terrible even though I do use it, it hasn't been properly audited by security minded apoplexy, and even the keys for secret chats use the server side PRNG for keygen.

virtualice @CobaltVelvet

@codeawayhaley oh e2e is way too far compared to average. audits and crypto get quite masturbatory at a point.

but wasn't the rng related thing fixed? for all i've seen about it it's not entirely broken

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