**virtualice** @CobaltVelvet · Jun 29, 2018, 07:06

**virtualice** @CobaltVelvet · Jun 29, 2018, 07:06

virtualice @CobaltVelvet

Jun 29, 2018, 07:06

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trans woman: *is a woman, considers a transition*

the bad enbies, very seriously: this is enbyphobia

trans ∪ enbies: maybe being trans is source of actual issues in society whereas just being aware that gender is a construct without having to change yours to feel okay isn't a cause to oppression and makes you cis though ally

some other bad enbies: we're actually the most oppressed, look even you oppress us right now 👏 nbphobia & transphobia 👏 are 👏 bad 👏

**Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️** @SunCat · Jun 29, 2018, 09:22

**Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️** @SunCat · Jun 29, 2018, 09:22

Jun 29, 2018, 09:22

Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️ @SunCat

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@CobaltVelvet
Um... Sorry, I don't understand. Is it about calling people truscum or smth else entirely?

**virtualice** @CobaltVelvet · 2018-06-29T09:34:23Z

virtualice @CobaltVelvet

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@SunCat not really, partially i guess, it's a generic thing about people putting one's individual feeling about their identity as more important than the fact that gender itself is a social phenomena and doesn't exist on an individual level

i don't want to start to quantify dysphoria but being trans means a difference with the gender society assigned to someone that isn't only lexical, and that's something we use to survive and help each other

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**virtualice** @CobaltVelvet · Jun 29, 2018, 09:41

**virtualice** @CobaltVelvet · Jun 29, 2018, 09:41

Jun 29, 2018, 09:41

virtualice @CobaltVelvet

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@SunCat said otherwise, trans people need to transition or want to transition, otherwise they aren't trans and i don't think letting us have that word is too much to ask. and by transition i mean even the slightest thing, or strong desire to have it; i don't imply all trans people need to identify with a binary gender or have hrt or any surgery or anything like that.

if the cis is a theoretical entity that don't actually exist what are we doing

**Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️** @SunCat · Jun 29, 2018, 10:29

**Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️** @SunCat · Jun 29, 2018, 10:29

Jun 29, 2018, 10:29

Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️ @SunCat

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@CobaltVelvet
Well, if you talk about "even the slightest thing" then things like changing name / pronouns / gender words and/or presentation should count as transition. 'cos transition is always about being your true self, be it medical transition (body dysphoria is about parts that aren't felt as yours) or those "small" things I just listed

**virtualice** @CobaltVelvet · Jun 29, 2018, 10:36

**virtualice** @CobaltVelvet · Jun 29, 2018, 10:36

Jun 29, 2018, 10:36

virtualice @CobaltVelvet

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@SunCat yeah, i do count a social transition as a transition, whether it's a start or all of it

**Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️** @SunCat · Jun 29, 2018, 10:40

**Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️** @SunCat · Jun 29, 2018, 10:40

Jun 29, 2018, 10:40

Alex 🦋💛🐱 ☀️ @SunCat

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@CobaltVelvet
OK, cool then =)

It's just that some of those notions can be used to invalidate people >.<